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A little more about Mr E’s World

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Natalie Lynn – Admin

5:17 pm – July 2, 2010

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Here's a new little conversation that Mr E shared with me recently about the structure of his elven society. Most of the recorded conversation was lost unfortunately so we only have this little bit that was saved. 

On the face of it, the elven society seems to be structured in a way that is similar to ours.  However, in the lost part of the conversation, I remember him telling me that, as a society, his people have more serenity and live in more harmony with nature and each other than we seem to in our society.  The arts in all forms also play a big part in their world and they view it as an expression of the Goddess, adding ornamentation to almost everything in her honor. They also live and breathe the magic that surrounds them and he is going to talk about that more later.

Well, anyway, the conversation is below – we pick it up as he is discussing the different levels of his society:


NL: Ok, earlier we were talking about how your society was structured and you were talking about those who are on the lowest levels or those who have the least opportunities in life.  Who would be in that group?

Mr E:  Your basic unskilled worker would be those with the least opportunities.  These would be those who till the fields, muck the stalls, work the harvest and so on.

NL:  Is there any opportunity for them to move up in society then?

Mr E:  Yes there is.  Just because he was born a servant, in a servant family, does not mean he cannot become a statesman. If he does the right things and puts himself in the right position, and has the desire to be a statesman, he can do it.  He's not stuck here because he was born in this family, it's not a caste system.

NL:  I'm guessing that this would be true for both the males and females in your society, right?

Mr E: Of course.

NL: So how would someone go about moving up in society then?

Mr E: He would have to go for education.

NL:  Well how would he pay for that?  Are there benefactors?

Mr E:  Yes, you could go to somebody who has more money than you do and they'll decide to take you under their wing because of your desire to be this. They would ask for some benefit in return after you become educated where you would give them free service.

NL: Is it an apprenticeship of sorts?

Mr E:  Not exactly…

NL: So, it's a situation where you owe after you are educated and you have become what you wanted to be?

Mr E: Right, exactly.  If you are giving this person an opportunity,they have to pay you back in one way or another.

NL: So, you make an agreement ahead of time…

Mr E: If you are going to be teaching them or giving them the opportunity to get the education that is necessary, then they will, in return, give you their services for free.  It's all written down.

NL:  I see, that sounds very fair and a wonderful opportunity for those who are willing to do the work.

Mr E:  Yes it is.

NL: All right then moving on…who comes after the unskilled worker?

Mr E:  Next would come the skilled workers and the craftspeople which can range in levels from high to low such as  shoemakers, bakers, smiths, jewelers, furniture makers, and the higher artists.

After that would be the highly trained people such as healers and those of the wizarding professions (those who work with elements and magic for physical or metaphysical purposes) as well as those who work with the laws.

NL: Sounds a lot like our society–except for the magical people of course!

Mr E: It is similar in structure.

NL: Ok, and finally, you have the rulers of your society?

Mr E: Yes, then you have the rulers and those that are policing and protecting the area– starting with the troops and those that are managing them.

NL: I know the rulers are royalty but could the policing/army types come from any place in society?

Mr E:  If they choose, yes, but there are also physical requirements that they would have to meet and they would have to be educated to move up in the ranks.  You wouldn't have an unskilled labor worker be a General, you know what I'm saying?  You want the General to be able to read and write and be able to understand the complexities of war and politics and be aware of what is going on in this world.

NL:  So the answer to the question “What do you do all day” would depend on your place in society and the job you held, right? That is a question someone has asked in the forum and it doesn't seem like it has a simple answer.

Mr E: Right, it all depends on who you are and what you are doing.  If you're a baker you are baking all day and caring for your family.  You are shopping for goods…you know, it's pretty much medieval so you are taking care of your horses, carriages, delivery cart or whatever…

NL: You know how you mentioned earlier that your society values art and uses a lot of decoration or ornamentation on their tools, furniture, interiors, just about everything?  Would that be true of bakers as well and would it be similar to what the ruling class does only maybe not as finely done?

Mr E: Yes, it is throughout our society on different levels…

Now bakers are very fascinating. Not only do they make tasty, delicious things which I am very fond of (laughs) but they are artists and you'll know whose loaf of bread that is by looking at it because of how they did it.

Sometimes, when making a big loaf of bread,  they will take a big portion of dough and put it off to the side.  Then, they they roll out  smaller balls of dough which they braid together in their own special, intricate design and they place it on top of the big ball of dough and push it in there.  When it comes out, it is this beautiful loaf of bread with these wonderful, braided designs and you'll know exactly which baker this loaf comes from because it is in their distinctive style.

NL:  That's great, we need more of that in our world.

Mr E:  Yes, I think you do.


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Natalie Lynn – Admin

5:23 pm – July 2, 2010

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Here's another little bit that he told us last night about gift giving which I thought was interesting….I would love to get one of those gifts! Smile

Mr E:  Most of the time, the gifts we give are personally handmade unless it is something that isn't one of our skills, like jewelry making. Usually, the giver of the gift will enhance it with magic.  For example let's say we give a blanket, we would enhance it magically with health because it is often used during illness, or with protection to make the recipient safer while sleeping.


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Bluefirephoenix – Member

7:35 pm – July 2, 2010

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Thats interesting about the bread. I have Norweigen cookbook that has a  yeast oatmeal and rye bread that I base my own recipie on.

The shaping of the loaf was similar to what Mr. E just described.  If I remember correctly it was served at  Christmas..  It was also coated with egg to give it a sheen. The embelishments have to be covered with foil to prevent burning.  I don't make fancy looking bread very often but all the bread in this house is made from scratch and no bread machine either store stuff isn't worth it.

.. I hope the elves don't do Lutefisk  :::: shudder::::::: thats another Norweigen Christmas …. urrr special  If you don't know about that one its Codfish soaked in lye rinsed then baked and eaten. Why someone would take a perfectly good Cod and put it in lye and think that was good to eat I can't imagine.  

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Athidal – Member

8:01 pm – July 2, 2010

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Very interesting! Thanks for sharing this with us, Natalie. It's nice to have a slightly larger window into Mr. E's society, and to see what similarities it shares with ours. :) It definitely beats the idea of elves just dancing around in the woods going 'la la la' all day. XD


Cocoa – Member

Pacific Northwest

8:07 pm – July 2, 2010

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I loved the part about the baker. We definitely need a bit more creativity in our bread here. ;) I've always wanted to try to make intricate designs when I bake bread but I am still working on perfecting the perfect french loaf…

Thank you Mr. E for explaining some things about your society. It is quite similar to ours, though I suppose it depends on where a person is from.

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Sairahiniel – Member

Coffs Harbour,NSW,AU

1:52 am – July 3, 2010

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Wow, that is all very interesting!

Thank you!!!

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Lisa A.- Grey Eyes – Moderator

Pennsylvania

12:04 pm – July 3, 2010

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That sounds like the kind of place I would love to live at!


When Mr. E mentioned the ornamentation,  that is something that craftsmen, bakers, and tradesmen did with everything that was made in the earlier part of our century-    They always put a touch of design in what they did.

If you look at old homes, you can see a taste of that in the old architecture.

Now things are mass produced, and utilitarian only-    No form- just function.    We really do need even those little touches like that brought back again.

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WitchyWoman28 – Member

8:12 pm – July 4, 2010

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It's always the small touches that make a house a home. Very interesting to hear more about Elven society.

there is much more around us that we can not see. We only need to open our hearts and feel it. http://witchywritings.blogspot.com/

Navy – Member

Poland

5:03 am – July 7, 2010

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Their system is REALLY good! :D I wish Our world was like that! But I'm not sure, if humans would give back what They took. *rolling eyes* 

Thank You, Natalie, Susanne and Mr E. for that. Smile 

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Bluefirephoenix – Member

2:43 pm – July 7, 2010

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When we were looking for a house  we had to take a look at about 8 houses. The one house which will forever stand out in our minds was a 200 year old Scottish venacular style house.  We had seen many new houses the economy is very bad in this place and houses are cheap Since we were selling from the city we could get pretty much whatever we wanted.  The new houses were awful.  Both my other half and I have capentry experience; I have about 4 years commercial residential a trade I picked up when I lived in a place with no nursing jobs available.  Anyway the material and workmanship showed no pride or dignity whatsoever everything slapped together with cheep cheezy materials and they would call it a renovation.  But the 200 year old place was something else. 4 fireplaces connected to an enormous chimney the fireplaces looked like they belonged in a castle. Even though the material was rough it was artistically put together with obvious skill and pride. the house was built around the behemouth chimney. in such a way that it stood as the centerpiece of a work of art. The house was unusually large for a vernacular the planks used for boarding the walls were of such that we will never see again in our lifetimes; near a meter wide perfect wood. Trees don't grow that big anymore.  At least not around here.  The oaks these were taken from must have been over 600 years old.   We were both very sad to have to let that house go. It needed 75 to 100k of work to bring it to code and it was way to far to my work. The roads there would be impassible in snows even with the jeep. The later rather than the former being the deciding factor.


I think the houses greatly represent how people are thinking and whats going on in our culture. We've gone from emphasizing quality and workmanship to quantity and profiteering. Do we consider beauty to be important? or do we just get by day by day?  The experience of house hunting has become a parable to me do I drop the standard to meet expectations or do I raise the bar.


The house which will become our new home next week was the only other place that showed pride and dignity in workmanship. the materials are modern and in my opinion are not as good as the stuff available 200 years ago but it is also not cheap cheezy garbage put together with by a drunk weilding a nailgun.

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ta – Member

4:12 pm – July 13, 2010

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That world isn't so different, so i was wondering if their world is so similar, can fae be overweight?

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