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Well see the seelie and the unseelie are not COMPLETELY oppisites. They both love the earth and music, etc. but the unseelie don't like humans. They think us harmful and a threat so they will get rid of us anyway they can. The seelie want to help us and communicate with us about how we are hurting the Earth. Elves are a type of fae that exists and some Elves are seelie and some unseelie.

DO NOT TRY AND CONTACT THE UNSEELIE AT ALL!!!!!!

The whole reason why they use the terms seelie and unseelie is to tell between the harmful and the helpful and I do agree the labeling is bad in some ways like in high school or in society in general but we need it to be in order. Good labeling is like breeds of animals or types of plants bad labeling is vicious dog or a bad kid.

I hope you get what I'm trying to say. Without the term seelie fae there would be no term unseelie and the unseelie behaviour would become the general behaviour of how fae act and that hurts the purpose of what the seelie fae are accomplishing. The same goes for the unseelie because it would cause us to become naive and think all fae act good and loveful when some really want to do us harm. We wouldn't be able to tell the difference between them.

I feel like I'm getting off the point I''m trying to get, but the fact is that the seelie are good to us and the unseelie are bad to us, they are also harmful to us and themselves. Kind of makes you realize that the fae are not completely different then us humans.

I hope I helped at all and if I didn't then I'm very sorry.

Not all Unseelie are "bad".  Perhaps when referring to the elves in Mr. E's location THEN "unseelie" is a term for "bad".   However, there are millions of fae who are "unseelie" and are not "bad" by their own standards.  One thing you should remember when referring to "bad"/"good" "evil"/"good", is that no fae is going to use those terms the way humans do.

Contacting unseelie may be difficult, since unseelie fae (especially in the British Isles) tend to not deal in human matters when necessary unless they feel they can BENEFIT from the situation.

We have SEVERAL unseelie fae who reside in our home, and they are certainly not evil.  :( 

You CAN attempt to contact fae of the Unseelie persuasion, but I would advise to be careful of this due to the fact that they can easily take your motives and words and twist them to their own liking.They will want to benefit from the situation (most likely not actually HARM you).  Generally, fae who wish to do ill harm will come to you whether you summon them or not, or try to enter your life whether you want them to, know they're there or not. This is from personal experience and from what I have learned through my time with Nevermore. 

I am not sure how to summon or make contact with elves, since I have no experience or dealings with elves.

There are 3 types of fae.

Seelie

Unseelie

Neutral

Seelie fae want to save the earth through human awakening.

Unseelie want to also save the earth but through human elimination

Neutrals don't really care about humans, but do want to save the earth.

Mr.E says that though unseelie fae can do harm to us very badly (he believes the tsunami that hit japan was caused by unseelie using the merfolk(neutrals) for their dirty work) They still love the earth. He says that if we figure out in time that humans aren't this great and powerful life that is the only intelligence in general they won't kill us. They are convinced that humans are a helpless cause and that the only way to save the earth is through human elimination. But if we prove ourselves to them, they'll leave it. Natalie put on her common types of fae post that because of the war between the fae on their side that you should not deal/contact the unseelie and to stay away from them.

The problem I see is that we either put faes up on a pedistal and act like they are the most powerful beings, or we humanize them to our level. Both are not right.

Faes are very great beings but they don't want us to over extagerrate who they are. But we also can't say they are like humans because they're not, they are very much better to humans with their powers of manifestation and how they look at the whole picture and we only see little parts at a time. So then what are they? What is the right way to describe fae?

Faecat said:

There are 3 types of fae.

Seelie

Unseelie

Neutral

Summer Fae and Winter Fae, whose objectives and court rules we've discussed in several sections on this forum. These two courts are prevelant in IRELAND, SCOTLAND, and ENGLAND. Because due to cultural differences and area differences, not all courts are one. In Japan there are beings called "Yosei" and "Youkai" who have their own courts as well, that don't follow any of the other courts. Chinese faeries have a court called the Red Court, and don't follow the code of Seelie or Unseelie at all. In Mr. E's region, Seelie and Unseelie are the prevelant courts in the area, and the courts that are involved in a war. Seelie and Unseelie courts have always been involved in wars, but it might be a "some regions only" thing. We have Seelie and Unseelie faeries here and they get along just fine.

There are not ONLY Seelie, Unseelie and Neutral.

DakotaRisingMoon said:

Faecat said:

Well see the seelie and the unseelie are not COMPLETELY oppisites. They both love the earth and music, etc. but the unseelie don't like humans. They think us harmful and a threat so they will get rid of us anyway they can. The seelie want to help us and communicate with us about how we are hurting the Earth. Elves are a type of fae that exists and some Elves are seelie and some unseelie.

DO NOT TRY AND CONTACT THE UNSEELIE AT ALL!!!!!!

The whole reason why they use the terms seelie and unseelie is to tell between the harmful and the helpful and I do agree the labeling is bad in some ways like in high school or in society in general but we need it to be in order. Good labeling is like breeds of animals or types of plants bad labeling is vicious dog or a bad kid.

I hope you get what I'm trying to say. Without the term seelie fae there would be no term unseelie and the unseelie behaviour would become the general behaviour of how fae act and that hurts the purpose of what the seelie fae are accomplishing. The same goes for the unseelie because it would cause us to become naive and think all fae act good and loveful when some really want to do us harm. We wouldn't be able to tell the difference between them.

I feel like I'm getting off the point I''m trying to get, but the fact is that the seelie are good to us and the unseelie are bad to us, they are also harmful to us and themselves. Kind of makes you realize that the fae are not completely different then us humans.

I hope I helped at all and if I didn't then I'm very sorry.

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I agree,but at the same time, disagree. I mean, of course Unseelie can be harmful in a way, but they don't hate humans, they hate what we do. If we just stopped harming Mother Earth, they may just stop bothering us. But,maybe they are just making excuses for being harmful to people….
 

Who really knows, we would have to have contact with one to understand, or better yet, be one. So I doubt anybody would know anytime soon.

I think because asia is such a technological continent and so well developed that you don't see fae often there because fae tend to stick with the wilderness. But they still come to believers there.

Fae in Asia actually walk among humans, blending in with or without glamour, physical or not physical. :)  Though, most of the fae in Asia tend to really STICK OUT, because they can do everything better than a human can.  Some artists (musicians, actors, models, etc) tend to be fae. I can list a few, but I am sure if you were to go online and do some searching, you can pick out the humans and the fae in the human avatar. Asian fae are more open to dealing with humans because the humans tend to be more superstitious and believe in them, but also because the fae in Asia (particualrly those who are in Japan, China) are given more "rights" to do as they please.

Certainly, lesser fae in countries such as Japan, China, Korea and Taiwan have homes in the "wilderness", but most gentry make themselves comfortable among humans because they feel it is a "right" of theirs. Don't get me wrong, there are gentry who choose to live in the forests, mountains (especially), rivers and streams, ponds and lakes, etc. 

There are no courts in these countries, not like in the British Isles and the West. The courts are mostly "Upper" vs "Lower", "Stronger" vs "Weaker" and "Pretty" vs "Ugly".  Looks tend to help define the "class" of the fae, as well as strength and bloodline. 

You are probably wondering how fae in asia walk among humans.  This is due to the "avatar" that they create that is in human form.  This allows them to live the lifespan of a human (slightly longer usually). When the avatar dies, the fae "possessing" it is released to its true form.  I hope this is coming out right. Haku is trying to explain to me how all of the Asian fae are run and how things are done. If you need more clarification, please let me know.

I hope this helps!  ^_^/