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Member | SaranelTonight Buzzzz posts 416 4:27 am May 5, 2011
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What are some common household object made of, or possibly made of, Iron?
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Member | Aredhel Croatia posts 267 11:23 am May 5, 2011
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theres a lot of household objects that could be made from iron, like pans, scissors, chairs, tables, refrigerators etc… why do you ask ?
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Member | SaranelTonight Buzzzz posts 416 1:06 pm May 5, 2011
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Aredhel said:
theres a lot of household objects that could be made from iron, like pans, scissors, chairs, tables, refrigerators etc… why do you ask ?
Because fae don't like iron, or are "allergic" to it… :P
and I want whatever attracts them… an iron-free place!
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Member | Aredhel Croatia posts 267 3:39 pm May 5, 2011
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Hehe, yes fairies don't like iron.
i always dreamed of a house made from wood… and maybe glass :D… and stone…xD.
Something like this… i love this picture :)
http://img197.imageshack.us/i/…..llpac.jpg/
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| stellar posts 370 3:43 pm May 5, 2011
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I was just thinking that last night… How I would like to get rid of everything that's made of iron in my new apartment, because I'm trying to attract fae… But if you think about it A LOT of things are made from iron, like pots and pans, which are important! I guess don't sweat it much because every household has iron yet they still attract fae. Think of Natalie and Susan's house, I bet they have iron too, yet Mr. E visits them… Maybe they don't mind as long as they don't have contact with iron. If it's just there it might not cause them harm.
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Member | SaranelTonight Buzzzz posts 416 3:51 pm May 5, 2011
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Aredhel said:
Hehe, yes fairies don't like iron.
i always dreamed of a house made from wood… and maybe glass :D… and stone…xD.
Something like this… i love this picture :)
http://img197.imageshack.us/i/…..llpac.jpg/
that is… amazing! :O
I am absolutely in love with the hobbit-like houses!
 
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Member | Aredhel Croatia posts 267 4:18 pm May 5, 2011
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ohhhh yea they are great too :), everything is possible if you really want it :D.
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Member | Bluefirephoenix posts 891 5:20 am May 10, 2011
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I think the objection has mostly to do with certain objects made of iron and when used in spell work against the sidhe. I'll tell you about a mistake I made the other day. I was doing a working that involved what I think is a Kelpie. It's a very dangerous entity but it's been hanging out here and I wanted to find out why. I was also trying to get a handle on the creatures abilty to come and go. I made the seal on what I thought was tin which is the metal your supposed to use for this particular entity. ( Jupitarian) I worked for 6 hours and not a stir not a sound couldn't do a dang thing. Well found out later on the metal I thought was tin was galvanized steel. opps. So context is important. You have to use iron there are no substitutes available. When your gardening you need hoes and rakes ect. If you spot a fairy I would put the impliment down or move away. They know the difference between using it as a weapon or repellent and using it to maintain the house and garden.
I will try again of course but I have to get my hands on some real tin first which actually is not as easy as you think it should be.
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Member | SaranelTonight Buzzzz posts 416 1:58 pm May 10, 2011
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Bluefirephoenix said:
I think the objection has mostly to do with certain objects made of iron and when used in spell work against the sidhe. I'll tell you about a mistake I made the other day. I was doing a working that involved what I think is a Kelpie. It's a very dangerous entity but it's been hanging out here and I wanted to find out why. I was also trying to get a handle on the creatures abilty to come and go. I made the seal on what I thought was tin which is the metal your supposed to use for this particular entity. ( Jupitarian) I worked for 6 hours and not a stir not a sound couldn't do a dang thing. Well found out later on the metal I thought was tin was galvanized steel. opps. So context is important. You have to use iron there are no substitutes available. When your gardening you need hoes and rakes ect. If you spot a fairy I would put the impliment down or move away. They know the difference between using it as a weapon or repellent and using it to maintain the house and garden.
I will try again of course but I have to get my hands on some real tin first which actually is not as easy as you think it should be.
Wow… that really sucks! Sorry about that :O
and thanks for the info!
What's a Kelpie??
I actually have a few things I was worried was iron, and I know there's some iron in my geodes! D:
So, I think maybe I'll try the magnet test…hmm
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Member | SirZachary New York, U.S.A. posts 695 2:56 pm May 10, 2011
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SaranelTonight said:
Bluefirephoenix said:
I think the objection has mostly to do with certain objects made of iron and when used in spell work against the sidhe. I'll tell you about a mistake I made the other day. I was doing a working that involved what I think is a Kelpie. It's a very dangerous entity but it's been hanging out here and I wanted to find out why. I was also trying to get a handle on the creatures abilty to come and go. I made the seal on what I thought was tin which is the metal your supposed to use for this particular entity. ( Jupitarian) I worked for 6 hours and not a stir not a sound couldn't do a dang thing. Well found out later on the metal I thought was tin was galvanized steel. opps. So context is important. You have to use iron there are no substitutes available. When your gardening you need hoes and rakes ect. If you spot a fairy I would put the impliment down or move away. They know the difference between using it as a weapon or repellent and using it to maintain the house and garden.
I will try again of course but I have to get my hands on some real tin first which actually is not as easy as you think it should be.
Wow… that really sucks! Sorry about that :O
and thanks for the info!
What's a Kelpie??
I actually have a few things I was worried was iron, and I know there's some iron in my geodes! D:
So, I think maybe I'll try the magnet test…hmm
Don't forget that cobalt also atracts a magnet.
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Member | Bluefirephoenix posts 891 5:01 am May 11, 2011
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Kelpies a water demon according to scottish lore. But some traditions paint it more like a Neck which is a capricious being but not really demonic. It's attitude towards people is highly individualized. I would say the scottish view is a bit harsh. The entity does not appear to be malicious. Scottish folklore tends to paint all otherworld entities as demonic. Even in Agrippa they're considered part of the infernal world in the numerical scale of attributions. There is no distinction between underworld and infernal there and there probably should be. So intermediate water beings are something to be cautious of but are not totally destructive. The being showed up when I started preparing to work in a magical system a collection of grimoires known as the Lemegeton. I was a bit nervous with it but it does not appear to be interested in being destructive and has helped with some things around here.
Micromanaging Iron isn't necessary. Your body contains more Iron then that geode does. You need to look at magical context to understand how it works as a repellent to the sidhe. It's refined and iron that can be used as a weapon so needles scissors, knives and also what those things represent. …. maritian influences are perhaps most oppositional. It may stem from a fear of the ancestors when they faced iron weapons with their bronze. Represents the race with the greater technology driving the inhabitants of the land underground. Always consider what did your ancestors face that may have caused them to develop a fear of Iron. An iron sword holds it's edge better, it's sharper and more deadly. What advantages did Iron age civilizations have against bronze and stone age? This is what you need to think about and look at when your trying to help avoid things the sidhe would be afraid of. It is perhaps indicative of a fear of developing technology in general. Can't blame them there. They have their homes in areas here that are mined for iron ore. So it's not the element itself that's the issue. All mammals have iron in their bodies and you don't see any fear of birds and such ever being recorded.
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Member | SaranelTonight Buzzzz posts 416 2:51 pm May 11, 2011
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Bluefirephoenix said:
Kelpies a water demon according to scottish lore. But some traditions paint it more like a Neck which is a capricious being but not really demonic. It's attitude towards people is highly individualized. I would say the scottish view is a bit harsh. The entity does not appear to be malicious. Scottish folklore tends to paint all otherworld entities as demonic. Even in Agrippa they're considered part of the infernal world in the numerical scale of attributions. There is no distinction between underworld and infernal there and there probably should be. So intermediate water beings are something to be cautious of but are not totally destructive. The being showed up when I started preparing to work in a magical system a collection of grimoires known as the Lemegeton. I was a bit nervous with it but it does not appear to be interested in being destructive and has helped with some things around here.
Micromanaging Iron isn't necessary. Your body contains more Iron then that geode does. You need to look at magical context to understand how it works as a repellent to the sidhe. It's refined and iron that can be used as a weapon so needles scissors, knives and also what those things represent. …. maritian influences are perhaps most oppositional. It may stem from a fear of the ancestors when they faced iron weapons with their bronze. Represents the race with the greater technology driving the inhabitants of the land underground. Always consider what did your ancestors face that may have caused them to develop a fear of Iron. An iron sword holds it's edge better, it's sharper and more deadly. What advantages did Iron age civilizations have against bronze and stone age? This is what you need to think about and look at when your trying to help avoid things the sidhe would be afraid of. It is perhaps indicative of a fear of developing technology in general. Can't blame them there. They have their homes in areas here that are mined for iron ore. So it's not the element itself that's the issue. All mammals have iron in their bodies and you don't see any fear of birds and such ever being recorded.
That's interesting…
My sister and I have an iron defficiency. I hate to take iron pills lol… and my grandpa has to get the shots.
Anyways,
You don't think it's a biological thing with fae? but just a fear?
of iron.
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Member | Bluefirephoenix posts 891 6:19 am May 12, 2011
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Emotion and biology are not separate things in their world at least not like it is here. emotion, intention, anything mental translates to reailty in some way there. They can alter our biology and our world that same way. So how it works exactly no one knows and I don't think we really have the tools to look at it. Just don't have anything that looks like a weapon around and I'd loose unnessary metal fencing.
Even with Iron deficiency anemia you still have a great deal of iron in your body. It comprises a significant portion of your blood and other tissues to a lesser extent. Not eating properly affects everything BTW including your mind.
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| Lisa A.- Grey Eyes Pennsylvania posts 2499 1:28 pm May 12, 2011
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When I go on walks along our roadsides that border wetland and wild areas , when picking up trash, I will sometimes notice old road sign posts stuck in the ground — all rusty and obviously made of iron. I think that the kinds of faery that are sensitive to iron are probably sensitive to THAT kind of iron- where it is dug up out of the ground and concentrated in heavy amounts – like nails, and iron sign posts, fences, etc.
The kind of iron that is naturally in the soil or within animals and human bodies, etc.., and also in plants — such as dandilion leaves, etc…. is totally balanced with other minerals and nutrients to that it probably has no ill effect on any Faery. Just the artifically made things such as railroad ties, etc.. made from iron- where it is artificiallly concentrated in high amounts to make a metal object is probably what the Faery stay away from.
Alot of times on my walks, I will actually — out loud- announce to any faery or Pixies that may be in that area "watch out Fae, there is some manufactured iron over here". If I see any iron garbage, – such as a nail , etc, I do pick it up in my litter bag too. Just to err on the side of caution in case industrial iron really does hurt certain kinds of Faery.
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| Lisa A.- Grey Eyes Pennsylvania posts 2499 1:31 pm May 12, 2011
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Bluefirephoenix said:
Emotion and biology are not separate things in their world at least not like it is here. emotion, intention, anything mental translates to reailty in some way there. They can alter our biology and our world that same way. So how it works exactly no one knows and I don't think we really have the tools to look at it. Just don't have anything that looks like a weapon around and I'd loose unnessary metal fencing.
Even with Iron deficiency anemia you still have a great deal of iron in your body. It comprises a significant portion of your blood and other tissues to a lesser extent. Not eating properly affects everything BTW including your mind.
Hi Bluefirephoenix!!- Totally agree– also agree with eating properly and how that affects the entire body on all levels.
have a great day :-)
lisa
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Member | Adamaris posts 195 6:27 pm May 12, 2011
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Ah, that's interesting… So it's more of a psychological thing? Since emotion and biology are pretty much the same in their world and since they have a pretty bad history when it comes to iron, i can see how iron in concentrated amounts can be really bad for them.
So as long as the iron or steel isn't in the form of a weapon or anything else that can be used as such, they are okay with it?
I assume that the Fae are okay with humans keeping things like knives and stuff as long as it's not lying scattered around the house and they are properly put away?
Would they be affected adversely by iron that is used in buildings and homes? Or does it specifically have to be in a form that symbolize/cause disturbances in the environment (i.e. weapons, trash, litter…etc)?
Just asking to make sure I understand.
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Member | Athidal posts 644 8:40 pm May 12, 2011
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Quick note of personal experience:
Just don't have chunks of raw-ish iron in any form lying very near any places where you want and/or hope fae will be. I don't find any particular problems with stainless steel (which as an alloy is especially 'watered down'), but I'd avoid hematite. It's probably best to also avoid "fool's gold" (iron pyrite) just to be on the safe side, even though it is pretty and shiny.
There's actually not a lot of raw iron in houses these days; as far as I can tell the fae who hang about here never seem to have a problem going wherever they please in the house, and it was built around 1975. Two places in the home most likely to have iron bits would be the kitchen (cookware) and a fireplace, if you have one (grate, fireposts, sometimes the fire screen). We have both of those here, but their mere presence hasn't driven the fae away.
But yeah, I believe high concentrations of iron are basically the thing to avoid.
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