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Iron in my Faerie Garden…halp :(

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FaerieWitch.

Kansas

posts 36

12:50 pm June 28, 2010

So, all through spring I was working on an epic Faerie garden. I have foxgloves, thyme, 2 kinds of mint, fern, pansies, and an adorable pink bell flower. I had Faerie stones and sun and moon decorations and I left offerings there. Yes, everything was going great and I was really started to notice them.

….Then my dad added an iron fence to keep the chickens out of the garden.

Don't get me wrong, I appriecate him trying to help…but now it feels like my garden has been emptied. Offerings go unnoticed and I haven't seen or heard anything since he put it up. However, I have started having weird, depressing dreams when before my dreams were awesome.

So here's my questions:

*Is it possible the Fae are pissed (hope I can say that here….) at me, so they're ignoring me and making my dreams suck? I really don't know anything about Faeries and dreams, so I'm just wondering.

*Is there anyway to get them back to my garden that doesn't involve removing the offending object? Because I really can't ask my dad to take it down. It would be hard work for one thing and he would absolutly not understand why I was asking.

*Do you think this would be such a severe insult to the Fae that they would leave the entire area, not just the garden? Because I live deep in the country and there are lots of Faery places, but it seems building a lovely garden and then sticking iron in it once they get comfortable there is one of those things that might make them so mad they leave for good.

*What can I do to make up for this and, if they've left, get them to come back?

*Do all Faeries hate iron, or is it just some?

OK, long post, lol. Hope somebody can help me with at least some of these questions because I feel like I've really mucked up the whole relationship I was building. Even though I had nothing to do with the fence, for the record.

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Athidal

posts 633

2:19 pm June 28, 2010

Wow, that's a real shame! I'm sure your dad meant well, but that's a real bummer and a tricky situation, and getting around it will probably require some work on your part. Of course, if you went to all the trouble to make such a nifty garden in the first place, I'm sure you're not willing to just give up. :)

Without knowing exactly how big your garden is and how big the fence is it's harder to give advice, but here are a couple of thoughts:

1. Iron tends to rust over time, which not only makes it look bad but can hurt the soil as the rusted iron leeches into the ground. Maybe if your dad can be made aware of this, he would be ok with replacing the iron fence with something else – plastic, or aluminum, or (better yet) wood. Or maybe if he thinks you're ok with there being no fence at all, he would also be ok with that. If you're willing and able to do part of the work yourself, he might be more open to the suggestion.

2. If worse comes to worst and the fence just can't be removed, you could try insulating it (like the way electrical wires are wrapped in stuff to keep people from touching the bare wires). The best way would probably be to encourage vines like ivy, honeysuckle and other living things to grow up and over it if you can. Or depending on how the fence is made, you might be able to wrap bits of cloth and things around it to cover up the exposed metal, and maybe tie the cloth down with ribbons to make it look festive. It might be hard to do this without it looking strange or silly – but then again, it could be a chance for you to be really creative. For that kind of thing I'd say natural materials like cotton or wool would be best. Actually silk would be the very best material, since it has insulating properties, but it can also be kindof  expensive. You might be able to find some old silk handkerchiefs, or an old silk shirt from Goodwill that could be cut up into squares, or something, though. :)

Whatever you decide to do, it's probably a good idea to also go into some of the faerie places outside your garden, let the faeries know what happened and that you weren't responsible for it, and to apologize to them. If you've decided on a way to try to fix things, also let them know that – or ask them for their own ideas about how to fix it. Setting out some offerings like milk and honey, semi-precious stones, etc. might also help regain their trust.

Good luck!  I'm sure the fae will be willing to forgive once they understand what happened, especially if they know you're trying to make amends.

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Hineraukatauri

posts 351

2:46 pm June 28, 2010

some faeries don't mind, do you know the song annachie gordon?

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Bluefirephoenix

posts 891

3:19 pm June 28, 2010

I'm glad you posted though reminds me I have to take down the horse fence at the new place Made of steel which wouldn't be good. It's in poor repair anyway.

 Fast growing vine that  I think won't mind the iron is Morning glory. gotta watch it though it can get invasive. But it grows like mischief. grows from seed which makes it a cheap choice too.

 Lets see Hops is another one,  Grape vines in the right climate grow fast. Climbing roses in the right climate can be fast growing. Clemantis ( watch trimming it its irritating to the skin) They'll cover it in a season. The problem with the vines is that they won't cover it in the winter time.   Grape vines, and ivy are shade tolerant and require shade in hot climates.

Vines are the easiest plant to grow from cuttings so you can thicken it up once  you get some going.

One thing that kinda grabbed my attention is that they are going to know that it was your father and not you that did the iron fence.  You may have trouble convincing them to come back because your not the problem. You read quite a bit about using iron in this way to prevent children from being abducted ( I doubt the abductions were all that real probably just relatives kidnapping or children dying from other causes)  I'd suggest trying to get your dad on board at least as far as the fence is concerned. I know its going to be hard but I think it is probably the best thing. . Another thing chickens are good for the garden I'd encourage them to be in there. They eat harmful bugs in large quantities. I'll probably have a couple showy bantams to do bug control in mine if I can find some.

Go outside

Member

FaerieWitch.

Kansas

posts 36

3:38 pm June 28, 2010

1. Iron tends to rust over time, which not only makes it look bad but can hurt the soil as the rusted iron leeches into the ground. Maybe if your dad can be made aware of this, he would be ok with replacing the iron fence with something else – plastic, or aluminum, or (better yet) wood. Or maybe if he thinks you're ok with there being no fence at all, he would also be ok with that. If you're willing and able to do part of the work yourself, he might be more open to the suggestion.

That's interesting about it hurting the soil. I might mention that tonight.

2. If worse comes to worst and the fence just can't be removed, you could try insulating it (like the way electrical wires are wrapped in stuff to keep people from touching the bare wires). The best way would probably be to encourage vines like ivy, honeysuckle and other living things to grow up and over it if you can. Or depending on how the fence is made, you might be able to wrap bits of cloth and things around it to cover up the exposed metal, and maybe tie the cloth down with ribbons to make it look festive. It might be hard to do this without it looking strange or silly – but then again, it could be a chance for you to be really creative. For that kind of thing I'd say natural materials like cotton or wool would be best. Actually silk would be the very best material, since it has insulating properties, but it can also be kindof  expensive. You might be able to find some old silk handkerchiefs, or an old silk shirt from Goodwill that could be cut up into squares, or something, though. :)

That's a really good idea, especially since someone just gave me a couple of ivy plants. I'll totally be trying that, thanks!

Whatever you decide to do, it's probably a good idea to also go into some of the faerie places outside your garden, let the faeries know what happened and that you weren't responsible for it, and to apologize to them. If you've decided on a way to try to fix things, also let them know that – or ask them for their own ideas about how to fix it. Setting out some offerings like milk and honey, semi-precious stones, etc. might also help regain their trust.


I will also try that. I left them an offering of incense and ginger last night, but I'll try putting in other places they frequent besides the garden. Thanks for the advice! Smile

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FaerieWitch.

Kansas

posts 36

3:43 pm June 28, 2010

Hineraukatauri said:

some faeries don't mind, do you know the song annachie gordon?


No, I haven't heard of it before. I'll google it. :D

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FaerieWitch.

Kansas

posts 36

3:47 pm June 28, 2010

 Fast growing vine that  I think won't mind the iron is Morning glory. gotta watch it though it can get invasive. But it grows like mischief. grows from seed which makes it a cheap choice too.

 Lets see Hops is another one,  Grape vines in the right climate grow fast. Climbing roses in the right climate can be fast growing. Clemantis ( watch trimming it its irritating to the skin) They'll cover it in a season. The problem with the vines is that they won't cover it in the winter time.   Grape vines, and ivy are shade tolerant and require shade in hot climates.

Vines are the easiest plant to grow from cuttings so you can thicken it up once  you get some going.

Yes, the vine plants are a really good idea. I'll probably have to do that.

One thing that kinda grabbed my attention is that they are going to know that it was your father and not you that did the iron fence.  You may have trouble convincing them to come back because your not the problem. You read quite a bit about using iron in this way to prevent children from being abducted ( I doubt the abductions were all that real probably just relatives kidnapping or children dying from other causes)  I'd suggest trying to get your dad on board at least as far as the fence is concerned. I know its going to be hard but I think it is probably the best thing. . Another thing chickens are good for the garden I'd encourage them to be in there. They eat harmful bugs in large quantities. I'll probably have a couple showy bantams to do bug control in mine if I can find some.


I'll talk to him about it. It's not really an issue of the chickens eating the plants, he layed straw down all around them to keep the weeds down. The chickens eat the straw and then step on the plants, etc.

Member

WitchyWoman28

posts 341

8:44 pm June 28, 2010

Well the iron fence wouldn't be a problem in the winter since faeries don't like the cold anyway. In the winter it is best to invite the good fae into your home.

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Bluefirephoenix

posts 891

3:56 am June 29, 2010

Loreena MacKennit does a really nice version of Anarchie Gordan.  I have no idea what the words are to the song though I'll have to go back and look into it.  If they don't like winter why the heck would they live in Cape Breton and Newfoundland. Do you know how much snow they get up  there? there? 

Go outside

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Lisa A.- Grey Eyes

Pennsylvania

posts 2452

11:37 pm June 29, 2010

FaerieWitch. said:

So, all through spring I was working on an epic Faerie garden. I have foxgloves, thyme, 2 kinds of mint, fern, pansies, and an adorable pink bell flower. I had Faerie stones and sun and moon decorations and I left offerings there. Yes, everything was going great and I was really started to notice them.

….Then my dad added an iron fence to keep the chickens out of the garden.

Don't get me wrong, I appriecate him trying to help…but now it feels like my garden has been emptied. Offerings go unnoticed and I haven't seen or heard anything since he put it up. However, I have started having weird, depressing dreams when before my dreams were awesome.

So here's my questions:

*Is it possible the Fae are pissed (hope I can say that here….) at me, so they're ignoring me and making my dreams suck? I really don't know anything about Faeries and dreams, so I'm just wondering.

*Is there anyway to get them back to my garden that doesn't involve removing the offending object? Because I really can't ask my dad to take it down. It would be hard work for one thing and he would absolutly not understand why I was asking.

*Do you think this would be such a severe insult to the Fae that they would leave the entire area, not just the garden? Because I live deep in the country and there are lots of Faery places, but it seems building a lovely garden and then sticking iron in it once they get comfortable there is one of those things that might make them so mad they leave for good.

*What can I do to make up for this and, if they've left, get them to come back?

*Do all Faeries hate iron, or is it just some?

OK, long post, lol. Hope somebody can help me with at least some of these questions because I feel like I've really mucked up the whole relationship I was building. Even though I had nothing to do with the fence, for the record.


http://faeriefolkies.com/

Dear FaeryWitch,

I believe the faery that were  a blessing to your garden did get offended when they saw the iron fence suddenly erected.   My father does things like that too-    grrrrrrrr

What I reccomend is that you go out there and tell the faery out loud- that you truly apologize and that it wsnt your idea – and ask them for how you can make things better–   since your father probably won't permit you to take the iron fence down,    I reccomend adding some pieces of wood, or other natural things along that side of that fence facing the garden.      Tell the faery that you are blocking the iron from their garden for them.

Even if the iron doesnt physically hurt the faery,   they will be offended if they see it-   because people in the earlier centuries used to use it to chase them away–    so they do take it personally.

Here is a letter I received from a woman who channels the faery-   You can ask the faery questions on her site, and that particular faery being will have her reply back for you- 

Here is an awesome letter i received back from Fangle about iron, — a "modern pixie" :-)

"LISA!

I know you!  Your faery friend has told me all about you!  She says you're nice, but you worry too much.  But that's like most of you humans.  It's okay though, you might grow out of it in a hundred years.  We'll see.

To answer your question, we HATE iron!  It doesn't hurt us, it just reminds us of the past days when mean people would use them against us, to scare us and make us go away.  We didn't do anything to them except heal their children from disease, and leave them happy and healthy, fertilize their gardens, and care for the nature around them!  We hate being bothered and attacked by people who have NO idea of how much we really do.  It pains us to see people slander our good name based solely on their ignorance.  But like you say, some humans are deaf, dumb, and blind when it comes to us, and so we try to be as patient as we can with all of you.  We're trying so hard to become one with you all, but without getting burned and hurt in the process.  So far, it's going well, and I think that's what matters.

You don't need to put out any iron warning signs for us, as long as we know that it's not there to offend us, and get rid of us.  Most of us already know, but there are some of us who are shy (too shy, I think), and are too afraid to approach.  Maybe if you put up some signs that we're welcome to play, or maybe put some faery friends up that we can play with.  When we see things that look like us, we are always intrigued to see how you people see us, and so we're always ready to play around them.  They make us happy knowing at least some of you see us!

Keep up the good work!  We're proud of you!

With love always and forever,
Fangle"

"It is more important that you love than that you see!"

~ Spoken by an actual faery to the moderator at

http://fairysource.com/fae.html

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FaerieWitch.

Kansas

posts 36

12:47 pm June 30, 2010

What I reccomend is that you go out there and tell the faery out loud- that you truly apologize and that it wsnt your idea – and ask them for how you can make things better–   since your father probably won't permit you to take the iron fence down,    I reccomend adding some pieces of wood, or other natural things along that side of that fence facing the garden.      Tell the faery that you are blocking the iron from their garden for them.

That's a great idea.  I apologized and left them some offerings in all the places I've sensed them, but I'll try asking what they would like. You know the faery communication symbol and the faery flag? I was thinking about painting those on pieces of wood and leaving them on each side of the garden.

Even if the iron doesnt physically hurt the faery,   they will be offended if they see it-   because people in the earlier centuries used to use it to chase them away–    so they do take it personally.

That's interesting. I always thought it hurt them or blocked them somehow. If they're offended and not being hurt by it, then there's probably a good chance of getting them to come back, right?

Here is a letter I received from a woman who channels the faery-   You can ask the faery questions on her site, and that particular faery being will have her reply back for you- 

Is that from the http://faeriefolkies.com/ you posted? If it's not, what website is that? Because that's interesting.

Thanks a lot to everyone who responded! You've all really helped. Smile

Member

Bluefirephoenix

posts 891

5:08 pm June 30, 2010

Just a thought for future reference. It  probably takes more than a day or two to put up a fence of any kind. If your aware that someone who you have no authority over is going to take an action which would be offensive,  I would try to give some advanced warning.   They may be able to help deter trouble before it begins especiallyl if it involves something they're into such as a garden.

Go outside

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FaerieWitch.

Kansas

posts 36

9:53 pm June 30, 2010

Bluefirephoenix said:

Just a thought for future reference. It  probably takes more than a day or two to put up a fence of any kind. If your aware that someone who you have no authority over is going to take an action which would be offensive,  I would try to give some advanced warning.   They may be able to help deter trouble before it begins especiallyl if it involves something they're into such as a garden.


Actually, it's just a short little fence. You know, about chicken level to keep them out. He put it up while I was at work and since it's a small garden and small fence, I don't think it took him that long.

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Lisa A.- Grey Eyes

Pennsylvania

posts 2452

2:12 pm July 18, 2010

Hi!  Yes, I believe so– I  submitted a question to one of the faeries that speaks to the owner of that website-   (she is a cliarivoyant woman who has been able to see and hear them since childhood)     Fangle is the name the one Faery Being uses and they reallly do love receiving questions from people through her.

 Since it's a short little fence, it should not be too bad– and easy to block with some wood or something.  Thank God it's not a large iron fence with gate that surrounds your entire yard!

"It is more important that you love than that you see!"

~ Spoken by an actual faery to the moderator at

http://fairysource.com/fae.html

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Bluefirephoenix

posts 891

3:28 am July 21, 2010

You  know it's suprisingly hard to clear out iron out of the garden. I've not had much of a chance to mess with the garden yet except to get the rooted starts into the ground so they can establish before winter, basically the studio building is going to have to be re sided and re roofed to make it more friendly.  The sidhe have already covered most of the fence which is essentially horse size chicken wire with nightshade. It looks like they were trying to block off the surrounding woods. I get the impression they were not too keen on the previous humans in this place.  I'm trying to figure out if it's safe to cut down the part of the fence blocking a beautifully compoested 4 ft pile of horse manure. It's covered with nightshade and I'm wondering if to wait for fall. I know I'm being watched but I don't sense trust there yet.  The security system here looks like something you'd see in New York City or someplace like that not in a rural island community, so I think the antagonism was significant.

Has anyone found greenhouses to be a problem with the sidhe?  The produce farm up the road has massive rows of greenhouses the feel is kinda like that scene in X files with the bees. I get a really uneasy feeling about them I'm not sure if its the striking resemblemce to the movie or if its something else.

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