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A Theory on 2012

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Sairahiniel

Coffs Harbour,NSW,AU

posts 176

4:50 pm September 7, 2010

What I am about to post is a person called Ramtha's theory on 2012.

There is another planet in the solar system. – the destroyer of worlds.

It's in an elliptical orbit and comes round every 25,000 years.

A huge planet – Planet X.

The astronomers are not telling you the truth.

The solar activity at this time is not normal.

The maximus will be in 2012. The sun's child is coming home.

Planet X is also called Marduk.

Your governments around the world know it is coming.

It's gravity is so powerful, it can disrupt the orbit of the sun.

It was very destructive 450,000 years ago.

25,000 years ago, people from our time were invited back to their time.

An ultra secret service – went back in time.

They have a time machine.

The now is a portal to the past.

Aurora – super secret aircraft – was sent back in time.

The pyramids of Giza are a machine – they replicate Orion.

They deflected something catastrophic – a machine that deflects energy.

Pyramids with the lining and copper, …..channelled the energy of the earth –
fired a laser into space – took planet X out of it's orbit deflected it.

If you don't know this knowledge, you have no right to judge it.

North Star will……?    great pyramid……?

Venus will reverse course around the belt of Orion.

Time travellers went back 25,000 years – with the Aurora ship.

Every country has massive undergrounds.

This planet (X) is a real live big boogeyman.

There are machines to create massive electric fields to produce a deflecting
field – just as the pyramids did.

This calamity is unavoidable.

What should have remained buried, oil and coal, will be released.

25,000 years ago, they had electricity, just like Nicola Tesla discovered.

They had lasers.

There is a power in you that is untapped.

During 2011 and 12, there is no shield to protect you from the
electromagnetic effects of the solar storms.

You did that by digging up the oil and coal.  The planet (X) didn't do it.

The planet (X  will increase the stresses on the pacific rim.  Volcanoes will
erupt.

In the oceans, there is a great tectonic plate – which has been held.  When
that goes, it will destroy the entire west coast – all the way down to mexico
– and a chain reaction down to south america.

A war will light the void.  Do not take sides. Light for 12 days and nights.
The world will tilt and turn.

The destroyer is brighter than the sun – terrible.

I have a long vision – I have predicted all of this.

The ignorant won't see it coming.

You have alien cultures here.

Some of you will be lifted off – Those who have the power to reveal other
dimensions.

Who will be saved? Not the silly and the profane.

Those who have marched against their own idiocy – against what has kept their
minds closed.

Put your toys away.

To conquer the fool is to be saved.

This is not something that is being done to you.  It's a natural event.

A natural order of this reality.

Conquer yourself and see the door to another reality – to see where blue
meets the gold.

….the chaos that is coming – little by little.

Antarctica is melting away – to reveal …..grand pavilions.

The oceans will rise 200 feet – soon.

South africa is a holy land.

Africa will split in two.  The wild things will be protected – will go beyond
their fences – and run to the mountains.  They are being called.

The cities are going down.

This preservation of the wild things – is in the name of the gods that
created them.  Except those in the far North – they will have to change their
DNA.

The Pyrenees – a safe place.

The mountains of Argentina are safe.

The land between Australia and NZ will rise and NZ will move closer to Australia.

The land in Australia will rise – high.  The interior is safe – not the
coastline.

An earthquake in the sahara region will cause a tidal wave – will take down
the island nations.

Italy will go down.

The Alps will rise.

Northern Europe – a winter will come.  Russia and North Europe will be the
new North Pole.

This place – there is an anomaly here.

Here were the ancient beaches of Lemuria.

It's unique – fault lines underneath for 20 miles…..act like rollers.

The plates will force this land mass up – without sinking or breaking apart.
 This is an Ark.

Go underground – like all the governments.

Store food, water, seeds and implements of all kinds, and clothing.   Food
and fuel for 2 years.

You can create anything.

It must be a way of thinking. – hardwired.  Do it everyday.

You are divine.  You have an incredible ability.  Only you have the will to
pre-ordain your destiny.

Love is glue.  Love introduces you to the truth.    Creating the future.

Love brings a certitude of peace.

Peace comes when we have conquered ourselves.

We will go through a labyrinth to another place – another time.

You cannot survive the future unless you have arrived in the future.

Aa' menle nauva calen ar' ta hwesta e' ale'quenle!

May thy paths be green and the breeze on thy back

(I used to be 'elvenhart')

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Adamaris

posts 195

8:10 pm September 7, 2010

Hmmm…I have heard about a theory like this before. Something about Nibiru collision? I'm a little skeptical though. Still, interesting info. 

"With the realization of one's own potential and self-confidence in one's ability, one can build a better world" – Dalai Lama

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ta

posts 701

8:29 pm September 7, 2010

i heard a lot about this topic. like Adamaris I'm skeptic too.
i can't image how this can apply to the fairy prediction and the Ascension prediction.
But then like this one guy on youtube said, "everything will be already".

Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are a good person, is like expecting a bull not to attack because you are a vegetarian. -Dennis Wholey.

The real measure of your wealth is how much you'd be worth if you lost all of your money. -Bernard Meltzer

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Feredir

Kentucky

posts 41

5:36 am September 8, 2010

2012 again this thing wont die until 2014 there will be no Nibiru/Planet X/Marduk/Haven or anything crashing in to us the planet is bigger than earth from what I have learned so if its 2 years away from colliding with us we would see it, it would be far past Mars and when I say see it I mean see it with the naked eye. This vision was more than likely an E.T induced dream so that a certain species im not going to go in to that now can spread more lies than they alrady have. I had a dream of 2012 three different time all different ways dreams and its nothing more than that wether theirs a purpose aske the E.T's.

(Glory Is The Reward Of Valor.)

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Sairahiniel

Coffs Harbour,NSW,AU

posts 176

2:15 am September 9, 2010

Umm… Here's some info on Ramtha, if anyone wanted to know…

Who Is Ramtha?

Ramtha is an ancient warrior, conqueror, and ascended Master who lived 35,000 years ago. Remnants of his life and teachings exist in various archaeological artifacts from India and Egypt, as well as ancient Hindu literature. He explains that in his one lifetime he addressed the questions about human existence and the meaning of life, and that through his own observation, reflection, and contemplation he became enlightened and discovered the way to transcend the constraints of time, space, and the limitations of the physical body. He realized a way in which to take his body with him to a level of mind in which his true essence as consciousness and energy could remain fully conscious, be completely free and unlimited to experience any and all aspects of creation, and continue to make known the unknown. He refers to this process as his ascension. When he decided to finally leave this world he ascended in front of his people, which numbered two million, after teaching them what he had learned for 120 days, promising them he would return. Ramtha, in presenting his knowledge as the fruit of his own personal experience, makes the point that he himself is the embodiment of the teachings, the living representation and manifestation of his thought. Thus he says that he is an immortal God, consciousness and energy, and that he lived once as a human being 35,000 years ago in the long-gone continent of Lemuria. The fact that he is no longer limited by his physical body allows him to interact with the physical world in other forms. He often refers to himself as being the wind pushing the clouds, for example, or as being the morning, or a stranger, or a beggar on the street observing civilizations come and go, or as anything that consciousness would dare to imagine. He chose this time to return because the human race is ready to understand what he discovered about our true identity as the Observer, responsible for collapsing the quantum field and molding time and space.

JZ Knight, the Channel

JZ Knight was born March 16, 1946 in Roswell, New Mexico to a family of migrant farmworkers. She was the eighth child in the family and spent her early childhood in the cotton fields while her mother worked picking cotton. JZ Knight, through hard work and dedication, became a very successful businesswoman. Her professional work was interrupted by Ramtha, who started her on a journey of self-discovery and mastership. JZ was part of Ramtha's life historically as one of his beloved adopted children, Ramaya. One of the more controversial aspects of Ramtha's teachings is the form in which he chose to deliver his message. The form in which he communicates his teachings is through the phenomenon called channeling. In fact, it was Ramtha who made the term known in the late 1970s. Ramtha chose JZ Knight and prepared her to channel him, using her body to teach his message in person. A channel is different from a medium in that the channel is not the intermediary between the consciousness coming through her and the audience. The channel does not remain in a transfixed altered state while channeling; rather she leaves her body completely and allows the consciousness coming through to have full faculty over all her bodily movements and functions. Ramtha, while being channeled through JZ Knight, has the ability to open his eyes, walk, dance, eat and drink, laugh, speak, converse, and teach his students personally. JZ Knight is the only channel he has chosen and uses to deliver his message.

Ramtha's choice to channel his message through a woman rather than using his own physical body is making the statement that God and the divine are not the prerogative of men alone and that women have always been worthy expressions of the divine, capable of genius and of being God realized. It is also asserting that what is important is not the worshiping of the messenger or a face or an image – which caused the collapse of so many efforts to enlighten in the past – but to listen to the message itself. It is also making the statement that the true essence of the human person is not limited to the physical body or a specific gender. The phenomenon of channeling is made possible, therefore, within the framework of Ramtha's own science. In other words, channeling as it happens in the person of JZ Knight is possible only if Ramtha's teachings are true.

By the way I would really appreciate that no arguments come from this topic, it was merely one of many theories.

Aa' menle nauva calen ar' ta hwesta e' ale'quenle!

May thy paths be green and the breeze on thy back

(I used to be 'elvenhart')

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Natalie Lynn

posts 1268

6:16 am September 9, 2010

Sairahiniel said:

By the way I would really appreciate that no arguments come from this topic, it was merely one of many theories.


This is the same type of channeling that Susan does with Mr E and it is fairly rare as far as I know.

I am familiar with Ramtha and I remember that JZ Knight was quite a presence during the 70's-80's.  After a while, she seemed to disappear from the scene and there were rumors that Ramtha had stopped channeling but I never really looked into it.  It seems they are back now and I'll let Ramtha's theories on 2012 speak for themselves.

I don't know what you mean by requesting “no arguments from this topic” but I will tell you that open discussion is encouraged here.   If anyone posts something here, they should expect a response or they shouldn't post at all.

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Athidal

posts 644

4:00 pm September 9, 2010

What Natalie said about open discussion, especially if you're choosing to post this in the Elder forum, which was created for exactly that sort of thing. :D  Otherwise this would fit better into the Hall of Knowledge.

Ramtha sounds like a very expanded sort of person with an extremely wide perspective. That being said, even though he may indeed see the events he has forcast through his channel, it's possible that they are only true in a different timeline(s) than ours. This is the main reason why most responsible psychics refrain from making specific predictions. It's not too difficult to make predictions based on broad patterns, but the more specific you get in detail the more specific you also get as to which timelines those detail(s) are true in. And people do jink so through time…

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Sairahiniel

Coffs Harbour,NSW,AU

posts 176

12:49 am September 10, 2010

Well… What I meant for the "no arguments from this topic" thing was probably "no fights to come from this topic"….I didn't know if I was saying what I meant right….Thanks for pointing it out Natalie.

Anyway, if I am not making any sense here lets just forget I ever said anything about argumentsSmile

Aa' menle nauva calen ar' ta hwesta e' ale'quenle!

May thy paths be green and the breeze on thy back

(I used to be 'elvenhart')

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Natalie Lynn

posts 1268

1:11 pm September 10, 2010

Sairahiniel said:

Well… What I meant for the “no arguments from this topic” thing was probably “no fights to come from this topic”….I didn't know if I was saying what I meant right….Thanks for pointing it out Natalie.

Anyway, if I am not making any sense here lets just forget I ever said anything about argumentsSmile


Ah, that makes sense, thanks for clearing that up!Smile


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