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Member | MyWorldAcrossTheVeil U.S ofA posts 30 2:12 am January 31, 2011
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Comments? I heard that idea floating around out there….
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Member | Midnight's Song posts 270 9:00 am January 31, 2011
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I guess it really depends on the Christian…though actually I might have got your topic wrong
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Member | Aredhel Croatia posts 267 9:43 am January 31, 2011
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What do you mean christians might go across ? Across what ? Explain your idea a bit more pls :).
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There is a way that nature speaks, that land speaks. Most of the time we are simply not patient enough, quiet enough, to pay attention to the story.
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Member | SirZachary New York, U.S.A. posts 695 3:47 pm January 31, 2011
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This is Energy Magic & does not follow any path other than its own.- Silvia Hartmann
Rage when properly focoused can turn a negative into a positive." SirZachary"Rascality is common,intelegence is rare and stupidity is infinent."
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Member | Artemis-Di BC, Canada posts 15 8:58 pm January 31, 2011
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Hello Mr/Mrs MyWorldAcrossTheVeil,
Is this post by any chance related to another one that you wrote about tribulation? I looked in google just in case and I found a website http://www.godandscience.org/d…..ation.html , but in the end I would say to take the information that you heard with a grain of salt and see what was the original purpose of the info, and why it was focused on christians? Cheers, Diana P = )
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Member | SirZachary New York, U.S.A. posts 695 9:15 pm January 31, 2011
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Am I missing something here??
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This is Energy Magic & does not follow any path other than its own.- Silvia Hartmann
Rage when properly focoused can turn a negative into a positive." SirZachary"Rascality is common,intelegence is rare and stupidity is infinent."
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| Lisa A.- Grey Eyes Pennsylvania posts 2506 2:42 pm February 1, 2011
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Are you referring to the Tribulation period? We are already in this period– I believe since before 9/11/2001 or so. If you notice, conditions (economy, political unrest, warfare, disasters, etc) are getting worse and worse with each passing year. Even our Environment with freak weather patterns, etc., is going through tough times.
I don't agree with that article about God's Wrath though- Here's a theory: People will blame God for all of the horrors that will happen before His return , but all the "Wrath" we will experience will not be from God choosing to hurt people- but will come from diabolical forces being unleashed who are more than eager to hurt everyone. Our Creator will temporarily have lifted His hand of protection over Earth because He knows that ALL humans need this time of hardship and anyone born at that time agreed with God that they would be willing to suffer it before they were born. Then all Hell will break lose as evil forces will take advantage of the fact that God temporarly lifted His protection. Anyone who resembles anything having to do with our Creator (who Demonic forces fear and despise) will be heavily attacked — and also harrassed and attacked by fellow humans who diabolic entities work through.
Noone is going to be spared- if you are alive during this time in History when this happens, there is a reason you were meant to be born at that time- so the Creator will help you through the Hell. Don't get too attached to things now– that everyone else gets attached to that ends up putting them to sleep- be ready for the harder times ahead.
The Tribulation time will be shortened because while it is going to be time of spiritual growth for all who love the Creator- the Creator can't bear to see the suffering any longer so will shorten the period.
Even now, there are people under negative influence who have no idea how much damage they do– and they are being used by demonic entities to further cause more damage. They don't even know they are being used, and they certainly would never believe it either. Expect it and worse, but don't get discouraged- because God has your back- you will not be permitted to suffer any more than you can handle- and with all that people will have gone through during that period– they will reap huge rewards after they die.
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Member | No posts 89 3:55 pm February 1, 2011
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Lisa A.- Grey Eyes said:
Are you referring to the Tribulation period? We are already in this period– I believe since before 9/11/2001 or so. If you notice, conditions (economy, political unrest, warfare, disasters, etc) are getting worse and worse with each passing year. Even our Environment with freak weather patterns, etc., is going through tough times.
You can take a snapshot of any period of our history and find that those conditions have existed somewhere in our world at sometime.
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Member | MyWorldAcrossTheVeil U.S ofA posts 30 5:31 pm February 1, 2011
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Why I think this is that the KJV talks about the dead in Christ shall rise, and they which are alive in Christ will be caught up together in the clouds to meet Him in the air. In order to go to heaven one must have an incorruptible body. It also says dead will be transcended, but the living will be translated, which refers to a time variance. A Hour time shift or more would scientifically explain why our structures look like hallow grams to them. A conscience was made to translate, not the body. So in 2012, If there is suddenly thousands of deaths with no explanation, and they all happen to be Christians, Then the seven years of tribulation will have started, and lucifer would have translated to our side as punishment. To Be a Christian you would have to have asked the Lord for forgiveness and believed that Christ Was the one who paid for everyone's sin when he died.And that He arose From the grave so that the dead Christians could rise one day
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Member | MyWorldAcrossTheVeil U.S ofA posts 30 2:39 pm February 4, 2011
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Oh, yes, one more thing.. We wont be dead per say, we would have been raptured out to save us from Lucifer's reign.It still counts as our 1st life. If something happens like the end of the movie Surrogates, It would have been the rapture. Trust in God if this happens,….. -And http://www.realfairies.net/wp-…..gifbefore..
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Member | MyWorldAcrossTheVeil U.S ofA posts 30 2:41 pm February 4, 2011
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^and before..
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Member | Midnight's Song posts 270 10:43 pm February 4, 2011
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Pardon my harsh judgement, but I think that sounds a lot like what New Agers are trying to say which I myself had seen and heard of it till I got really sick of it all. Ascending into another plane exactly at 2012, and those who don't would remain in a 3rd dimensional "hell" for a very long time until they "get it". This whole "join us as a light bringer or suffer" thing is sickening as I think it really takes time for a person, no matter their spiritualy to "get it" ie: the purpose of life. So what happens if a person is so close to getting it, but required about 5 more years at 2017 to get it? Isn't it illogical to think that Lucifer would sweep away such an individual that is so close to be there?
I would assume that the phrase "ask the Lord for forgiveness" would apply to those in other religions as well like Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, hey, even Neo-Paganism. But I personally think it's wrong to manipulate a follower's emotions into fear and kneel under the Lord for forgiveness instantly until they really learn what has gone wrong in their lives. "sorry" and "thank you" doesn't fix things until you learn from it. (And to those who are wondering why some fairies hate it when we use "thank you" after recieving a gift, it's because you're just using a stamp to say that you've done your part for them rather than actually really feeling gratituous and promising that you would return the favour. The Good Folk expect gifts in return too.)
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Member | MyWorldAcrossTheVeil U.S ofA posts 30 2:11 am February 6, 2011
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I have no clue what a New Ager is and am confused with the hole "and those who don't would remain in a 3rd dimensional "hell" for a very long time until they "get it". This whole "join us as a light bringer or suffer" thing is sickening as I think it really takes time for a person, no matter their spiritualy to "get it" ie: the purpose of life. So what happens if a person is so close to getting it, but required about 5 more years at 2017 to get it? Isn't it illogical to think that Lucifer would sweep away such an individual that is so close to be there? I am a Christian, and have only gathered this info from the Elves I have Been in contact with. What I've noticed is their world's allegiances are based on ether God Head( The Trinity) or lucifer, then everyone in between. Each race (Elves, Humans,Cherubim,Angle,And Archangel) has a God Head given Bible they take seriously. I have heard the seelie quote human scripture before, and it wasn't the Koran. The God Head given Bibles seem to keep everything in line so the world doesn't get plunged into darkness.There are elves who worship other persons including dragons, some even, scary enough, sacrifice the dead of our world.
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| Natalie Lynn posts 1268 2:17 am February 6, 2011
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All I can say about this is your experience and information seems completely different from what I have learned from Mr E and the Elves of Fyn
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Member | MyWorldAcrossTheVeil U.S ofA posts 30 2:38 am February 6, 2011
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You are probably connected to a different strand than me. But I have been almost completely emmersed in this world for over 5 months and have encountered numerous fey. ask me any question and I can answer it with discretion.
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| Natalie Lynn posts 1268 2:42 am February 6, 2011
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That sounds good…let's start with this. Can you tell me what a strand is?
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Member | MyWorldAcrossTheVeil U.S ofA posts 30 3:04 am February 6, 2011
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It took me a while to figure out that one for myself actually, and I hope I make sense out of this. Ok, First we all make decisions. imagine that you decided to pick up your green purse instead of your black. You are carrying the green purse but there is another you that is caring the black purse. Same you, different time. Every decision we make creates a branch off to another strand. So, ther is a strand were you never got in contact with the elves and remand unaware. It's confusing, but our physical world time stands are separate from the elven strands. The veil scientifically can be a time difference, FYI, runs at a higher, or faster rate than ours, which could contribute to how "ghosts" can go through our solid objects, because our Objects are ethereal to them. Hence, Mr. E can see through walls like hollow grams. Strands Are decision branch offs.
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Member | Midnight's Song posts 270 5:53 am February 6, 2011
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A New Ager is basically this whole new movement being set up to counter the 2012 paranoia. The real origins of it, I'm not sure myself, because I didn't bother to immerse myself deeper within them. The stuff I explained above is basically their belief of what would happen if a person didn't become one of them, and I find a parallel with what you're trying to say. By saying "Lucifer would have translated to our side as punishment" you are referring to this physical realm becoming a living hell full of negativity, am I right? And those who believe in the Lord and ask for forgiveness would be spared.
And I agree with Nat, your info seems really off base, no offense. Even some credible book info about the Good Folk aren't saying the things that you're saying. And is it me or is your information you're getting really Christian-centric? Not that it's bad to be Christian, but it doesn't seem to take into account the many other spiritual paths there are in this world. It's because of this I'm getting multiple interpretations of what you're saying as well so could you please really clear things up?
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Member | unique_as_you posts 176 5:13 pm February 20, 2011
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I believe in the whole acending topic..I believe that's what you need to practice and do, for I always listen to my intuition and it seems extrodinary but right to me..but everybody will go at their own pace to notice this (duh lol) We will only know what happens when it gets here..so just enjoy the moment of now and don't worry about the future..we will end up being our spiritual selfs no matter how long it takes. Even during destruction we should meditate and be well. I do NOT believe in anything bad like hell, it dosn't phase me..I believe everything has good in it. If "bad" people are out there it's only because they're unbalanced. All of this is what my instict tells me and I believe it and I will never be alone on this earth or after because my spirit guide is always with me. For anybody who has any questions about the world, I suggest that you look deep and try to speak with your spirit guides, you WILL hear them if you truely want to! :)
love to all! <3
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Nature is our mind, body, and soul.
May your light become a living universal light.
Follow Indigos and crystals and all will be peaceful. <3
hugs!
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Member | Lady Kiya posts 24 10:11 am March 17, 2011
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Are you asking if Christains will transition when the veil rises? Truthfully, I don't think that it is religious belief that determines such. There are good Christians and bad, good Wiccans and bad. I think it is the individual, not the tradition, culture, or religion.
As far as Ascension, it isn't just a Christian belief or ideal. Perhaps you don't realize that Kwan Yin and Merlin are considered Ascended Masters. In a nut shell, it is about those whom reached enlightenment and moved on to a realm where they can still assist us but don't have to reincarnate into human form again. They are spirit beings, instead of in an Earthly form.
Kwan Yin definately isn't one whom Christians would seek aid from if they followed specifically according to their belief system. But there are some that are open to other ideals. Though I am considered Wiccan, I don't follow a single tradition. I work primarliy with Native American, Celtic and Shamanistic deities and ideals. Depending on what the need is and whom I am working with factors in to what I do and how. When a Christian comes to me for help I don't ask for them to work with dragons. I work then with Angels.
Just my thoughts.
Love and Light,
Lady Kiya
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