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Member | Faerie_Firbolg Tara, Ireland posts 91 9:58 pm April 20, 2011
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So…
You are all confused and so are we. Mayhap we should determine what are the confusions and where everyone stands here in terms of information. I must admit, as far as Aislinn and Ashy knew, until finding this forum, they were the only ones who could channel faeries. There have been a few mediums that have popped up every once in a while whom have told them the same story that we have told them, but it seems that we're at a crossroads and there's no sign to point in the direction that we should all be going.
Mr. E has you under the impression that there's a gigantic war between the Bright Court and the Night Court, and we (here on this end of the world) have no idea what you're talking about, which is mostly the reason that we haven't joined in. Most of us here are just like your Mr E, nobles, and some of us royalty of our respective courts. Either someone's been shooting messangers on their way to tell us what's been going on in Tir Na NOg lately, we've been out of touch on our own errands, or you are completely out of our timezone.
There are… Skirmishes going on between the Night Court and Bright Courts respectively over territory and succession rights. Occasionally the Unseelie Court will attack the Seelie Courts and vice versa, but there hasn't been a full scale war that I'm aware of. However… We have also been somewhat out of touch with the rest of the faerie world since last year, when Nevermore stated that he'd found the missing Queen. None of us have really been back to Tir Na NOg for a long period of time since then.
Now. I know that there IS a war going on between the Tuatha de Danann and the Formorians, full-scale with raids and whatnot and that's been going on for generations and thousands of years. They are the ones who want to destroy humanity and wipe them from this planet, and they'll use every trick and trade in the book to do so, from physical attacks to metaphysical/psychological. We've been hit hard here… and the attacks keep coming. If something doesn't work on one of our girls, they'll try a new tactic through the others.
Mr. E, where are you in relation to us? We are under the impression that you have to astral project in order to talk through Susan and her sister, and she must trance in order to receive you. If that's the case, then that's different from us. We're here. We live in Ashy and Aislinn's apartment, we follow them to class, we hang around near them, and if we need to talk to them, we just place hands on and slid in. We want to know, because like you, we don't want to be confused. We don't want to seem as though something is not quite right in the sharing of our information.
Do you know anyone by the name of Finvarra? He's been a thorn in our side for a rather long time, and has a habit of coming up with interesting ways to complicate our lives. Finvarra's been on the throne of the Tuatha de Danann for a while, though he's not supposed to be. He's only a steward.
Have you ever heard of something called the "Gift of Danu"?
When your sister is feeling better, perhaps we can have a discussion about this, and the lot of us can come out of it less confused.
Cheers,
Nuada Silverarm
Lord of the Seelie Court
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Colour Chart for Faeries that steal my keyboard:
Silverlance in blue.
Ambrosia in red.
Valor in purple.
V in light blue.
Rose in Pink.
So, if I'm writing in any of these colours, I'm most likely not Ashy, I'm one of them.
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| Natalie Lynn posts 1268 10:24 pm April 20, 2011
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Faerie_Firbolg said:
Now. I know that there IS a war going on between the Tuatha de Danann and the Formorians, full-scale with raids and whatnot and that's been going on for generations and thousands of years. They are the ones who want to destroy humanity and wipe them from this planet, and they'll use every trick and trade in the book to do so, from physical attacks to metaphysical/psychological. We've been hit hard here… and the attacks keep coming. If something doesn't work on one of our girls, they'll try a new tactic through the others.
This sounds exactly like what Mr E is talking about. Perhaps the fomorians are what Mr E calls the unseelie. Can you expand your mind to include this possibility???
Another point though – how can you say that you are in the same place as your channels when you don't have a physical body. That isn't really the definition I have for that. Mr E is in his realm but in the same basic place on the planet (our city) that we are. In fact he is also in our house like you are.
You said: Mr. E has you under the impression that there's a gigantic war between the Bright Court and the Night Court, and we (here on this end of the world) have no idea what you're talking about, which is mostly the reason that we haven't joined in.
He doesn't have us under any impression, he has never used the terms Bright Court and Night Court but it is the truth as we know it so please don't imply we are being fooled in any way. Please don't make assumptions like this. We have been working with him for many, many years now, unlike the length of time you guys have been together. This is close to being insulting so please dial it down.
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Member | Aislinn posts 61 11:40 pm April 20, 2011
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Wow. I've missed a lot.
They do have a physical body on their planes, but they can touch us (even without us knowing because most people can't see them). It's like a mirror world, only they can see us if they choose to. How do you think that most other fae communicate with humans? THEY can see, though humans can't.
We are not making any assumptions or anything. I'm really not sure what is going on between everyone. O.O''
I think the reason why he asked that was because there are a LOT of fae who mess with humans for a long period of time, and just wanted to MAKE SURE that that was not the case. Not because he is ASSUMING anything, but because he just wants to check and make sure. There is nothing wrong with him wanting to be safe.
Personally, I think there is a high possibility that the Fomorians could be Mr. E's unseelie. It is certainly not impossible. We should all definately look into it more.
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オレソジの太陽
夕暮れに君と見た
オレソジの太陽
泣きそうな顔をして
永遠の…さよなら
ゆうぐれに君とみたい
オレンジのたいよう
なきそうなかおをして
えいえんの…さよなら
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| Natalie Lynn posts 1268 12:25 pm April 21, 2011
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Aislinn said:
Personally, I think there is a high possibility that the Fomorians could be Mr. E's unseelie. It is certainly not impossible. We should all definately look into it more.
Yes, these are your words/terms, not ours and you are the ones that seem to be confused, not us. Maybe next time, someone should "look into it more" before the assumptions–and there were some–or accusations are made.
This not a friendly way to proceed and it makes me wonder how "friendly" all this really is. I would never presume to go into someone's forum and suggest that they were so maleable or dimwitted that they could easily be "messed with" and be under "an impression" for several years, unbeknownst to them. How would you feel if I suggested the very same to you?
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Member | WitchyWoman28 posts 341 5:14 pm April 25, 2011
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Hmm..
There are many ways we can view this obviously. Personally I trust the energy which I usually feel from the fae communicating. With Mr.E I never doubt anything he says because he is such a positive energy. He is fun and loving. He is someone which can be easily trusted. As for the newer fae on the forum, I believe I have mixed feelings. I feel a deeper and darker side to them. This may be just their type of energy and not speak for their actions. I think the wise decision would be for the channelers to stop defending their elves and other people they channel and for Mr.E and them to talk to each other. This can be done through audio or wrtten responses. Obviously Natalie may want to write for Mr.E because I don't get the impression he knows how to use the computer. They can debate and disscuss and maybe they will agree on how things work in their worlds. If that is the case then obviously we should let the new-comers be part of our forum. If they do not agree then the real faeries forum should keep with its teachings and the new-comers can make a forum/blog/whatever of their own if they want to share with people. I am certain there are some people who will share your views and join your website. This is just a proposal and not neccesarily my opinion or what I want to happen. Obviously I want to make as many people happy as possible. This is an idea which I am just throwing out there. I mean no direspect. I just want to help moderate this dissagreement.
Thank you – Witchy
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| Natalie Lynn posts 1268 7:11 pm April 25, 2011
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WitchyWoman28 said:
Hmm..
There are many ways we can view this obviously. Personally I trust the energy which I usually feel from the fae communicating. With Mr.E I never doubt anything he says because he is such a positive energy. He is fun and loving. He is someone which can be easily trusted. As for the newer fae on the forum, I believe I have mixed feelings. I feel a deeper and darker side to them. This may be just their type of energy and not speak for their actions. I think the wise decision would be for the channelers to stop defending their elves and other people they channel and for Mr.E and them to talk to each other. This can be done through audio or wrtten responses. Obviously Natalie may want to write for Mr.E because I don't get the impression he knows how to use the computer. They can debate and disscuss and maybe they will agree on how things work in their worlds. If that is the case then obviously we should let the new-comers be part of our forum. If they do not agree then the real faeries forum should keep with its teachings and the new-comers can make a forum/blog/whatever of their own if they want to share with people. I am certain there are some people who will share your views and join your website. This is just a proposal and not neccesarily my opinion or what I want to happen. Obviously I want to make as many people happy as possible. This is an idea which I am just throwing out there. I mean no direspect. I just want to help moderate this dissagreement.
Thank you – Witchy
I appreciate that Witchy, but what I don't appreciate is the lack of respect towards Mr E and his information, and a sense of having him defend himself or explain himself. I could go on and on but I will spare you that and just say that, at this point, we have no real motivation to be part of any this at all.
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| stellar posts 370 8:42 pm April 25, 2011
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I think you guys should try to work out your differences so that we can all continue to be informed on the faery realm. It would be a shame to lose the new comers since they have already provided us so much new information we didn't know about, and probably have a lot more to offer if given the chance. They certainly show a darker side to the fae than Mr. E does, but we want to know as much about the fae as possible. If there is a darker side, we want to know about that too (well, I do anyway). Besides, the new comers add a little "spice" to the RF community, no?
I think Ashy and Aislinn have been busy lately, that's why they haven't really had the chance to have their fae further explain themselves… I'm sure they didn't mean to offend anyone intentionally. It took a lot of courage for Aislinn to open up about her channeling, she was afraid we'd judge her. Now that we've listened and believed her, we're going to cast her out because we don't like the fae she's channeling? All I'm saying is we should give them a chance…
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Being too full of sleep to understand
How far the unknown transcends the what we know
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Member | WitchyWoman28 posts 341 9:08 pm April 25, 2011
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It is a very tough situation. I understand your upset Natalie and honestly I am getting some bad vibes from the entire situation. Just because I never like people getting hurt emontionally. It is a tough call. I say we should wait before taking further action to really see their character. Don't you think that Mr.E would be the best judge of their character? Perhaps communication between Mr.E and them isn't a good idea but I would like to know at least his opinnion of them now. They should have the videos up soon. Let Mr.E see them and if he thinks that the fae their communicating with are going to be more of a benefit than a hinderence, we can choose whether we want to listen to them or not based on this. It is your forum and website Natalie and ultimately your decision whether you want them here or not. I will support you either way. I really don't want any conflict but sometimes differing views provide the breeding ground for it.
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| Heaven's Divinity posts 937 11:44 pm April 25, 2011
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People
should learn to look with their heart and soul instead of their eyes.
The world would be a lot better place if people learn to do so—- Heaven's Divinity
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Member | Faerie_Firbolg Tara, Ireland posts 91 2:04 am April 26, 2011
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Hi everybody,
We're really sorry that we haven't been posting lately, but our lives recently exploded. Aislinn was in a really bad situation (mortal situation) that we recently freed her from and now we're trying to pick up the pieces and put everything back together. It's also finals week for the spring semester and I just caught a… something… the plague. I feel absolutely terrible.
We also really wanted to thank everyone for their comments. We're not trying to cause any trouble, and we're not trying to be disrespectful to anyone, least of all Mr. E, whose been nothing but polite and kind to us. We know better than to insult or be disrespectful to immortals, having 12 of them in our living room on a regular basis. However, we do want to let you know that sometimes our fae do have an odd way of wording things that may sometimes SOUND offensive. Most of them don't have a particularly good grasp of the English language, and therefore have a hard time putting what they WANT to say into what they ARE saying.
I know that when Silverlance said this "Mr. E can be an elven prince, I don't see why I can't be a king", it made a few people (Natalie included) feel that he was trying to be insulting. He wasn't. What he really meant was "if you all have no problems believing that Mr. E is an elven prince, I don't see why it would be such a leap to believe that I can or could have been a king." Silverlance has a better grasp on the english language, but he's also British, and has a different way of speaking than us over here in America.
We also sometimes feel that we have to jump through flaming hoops of fire to prove that we're not just being trolls on the internet or causing trouble, and that we (our fae included) have been given lack of respect by some people, some, not all. Sometimes we even feel as though we're being attacked, even though we're trying to be polite. Our faeries just want to be treated with the same respect that Mr. E gets, because they are supernatural and they are immortal. We want to tell you all everything that we can about the faeries, but we need to know that we're going to be trusted.
We will have the audios up soon, we're compiling questions and videos and we'll be posting them on a private youtube channel for everyone to see.
Thanks for understanding,
–Ashy
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Colour Chart for Faeries that steal my keyboard:
Silverlance in blue.
Ambrosia in red.
Valor in purple.
V in light blue.
Rose in Pink.
So, if I'm writing in any of these colours, I'm most likely not Ashy, I'm one of them.
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Member | Athidal posts 644 12:21 pm April 26, 2011
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Sorry to stick my oar in here – I'd really meant to stay out of this topic. But…
With much respect to everyone on all sides of this issue:
It occurs to me that at least part of the problem here seems to be in differences of terminology and vocabulary. I fully trust Mr. E as a source of information…however, he has, in the past, admitted that he was starting with a sort of 'baseline' of information according to what humans already know and/or believe, and so it seems to me that it's possible some of the terms he has been using to date have been informed by that. Specifically I am thinking of Seelie/Unseelie, which human stories nearly always present as a very simple good/bad dichotomy. It could be that Mr. E really does mean that Seelie=good and Unseelie=bad when he uses those terms… or maybe he's just using terms he knows we will understand until a chance comes along to upgrade our understanding. I'd like to know what he has to say about that.
To Ashy & Aislinn:
Your patience and politeness are greatly appreciated. I know it is frustrating, but I do hope you will understand the position the rest of us are in; on the internet it's hard to know for sure just who you're talking to, and we've had problems with trolls here before. To be honest, you are making some pretty extraordinary and important claims, so it is natural for people to try as hard as they can to be sure about what you are saying. I think it would help some of us here feel better if you were at least able to give us some kind of specific information that doesn't appear in legend and lore, but which Mr. E could verify. And also if the terminology could get worked out…
I really hope the video idea helps – I want to believe you. Also, I hope you feel better soon!
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Member | WitchyWoman28 posts 341 2:59 pm April 26, 2011
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I agree with Athidal. This makes sense. We should really try to get termonology straight and understand one another better. I still really want Mr.E to verify information as well.
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| Heaven's Divinity posts 937 3:14 pm April 26, 2011
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there is a lot more going on then mixed termonology that I know for sure even if thats the case thier info is still conflictive with Mr Es info. Not saying they mean to have bad intent they are nice people. Its Just thier info is conflictive and some of it is even shakey at best beings from any realm really is always a few steps ahead of us and we must be careful who we tred and recieve info from. Mr.E should not have to be defending himself and I think assumptions To be honest is making RF team defensive. but like I told ashy she should follow her own truth just because its conflictive to us doesnt make it any less of a truth for her
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People
should learn to look with their heart and soul instead of their eyes.
The world would be a lot better place if people learn to do so—- Heaven's Divinity
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Member | Aislinn posts 61 3:42 pm April 26, 2011
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This is going to be a short post because I have to get to class….but…
Something I have noticed though, is that Mr. E's Fynn is located around German areas (if I read the information correctly and heard right), and ours are from Ireland and the Ulster regions.
I am wondering if there is a HUGE culture difference between them? Meaning not only terminologies but the way things are run (such as the courts) as well as the histories. Western Europe's history is much different than Eastern Europe's history and North America's history is much different than South America's history. So I wonder if all of this misunderstandings is also due to the huge difference in region and culture and language. :/
I am very curious to see what Mr. E has to say about all of this.
I want to thank everyone for jumping in and giving your opinions to the situation. ^__^ Your support for all parties is greatly appreciated and revered! :D
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オレソジの太陽
夕暮れに君と見た
オレソジの太陽
泣きそうな顔をして
永遠の…さよなら
ゆうぐれに君とみたい
オレンジのたいよう
なきそうなかおをして
えいえんの…さよなら
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Member | MyWorldAcrossTheVeil U.S ofA posts 30 3:45 pm April 26, 2011
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Mr. E is a prince, remember this. Any one of his world would know this.
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| Heaven's Divinity posts 937 3:49 pm April 26, 2011
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People
should learn to look with their heart and soul instead of their eyes.
The world would be a lot better place if people learn to do so—- Heaven's Divinity
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Member | Aislinn posts 61 3:53 pm April 26, 2011
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We aren't doubting that. But you guys doubt Nuada and Nevermore and their Kingships. I think that is where we are getting some of the unfairness from. If Mr. E can be, why is it so hard that there are tons of other fae out there who can be and were too? We never once said that he wasn't and our fae don't question it either, there is no reason to.
This is the point we are trying to get across. Not that we are doubting anyone or questioning authority, but there has been some prejudice, skeptisim and doubt about the authority of our own fae.
Fae are fae and they won't be anything else. Our fae are very protective of who they are.
We are working on the videos (or audios, which ever ones turn out better quality. >.< We have a sucky camera. :( ) and hopefully have them up soon.
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オレソジの太陽
夕暮れに君と見た
オレソジの太陽
泣きそうな顔をして
永遠の…さよなら
ゆうぐれに君とみたい
オレンジのたいよう
なきそうなかおをして
えいえんの…さよなら
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| Heaven's Divinity posts 937 3:56 pm April 26, 2011
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I think
MyWorldAcrossTheVeil
meant you should have known prior or something along those lines
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People
should learn to look with their heart and soul instead of their eyes.
The world would be a lot better place if people learn to do so—- Heaven's Divinity
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Member | Aislinn posts 61 3:58 pm April 26, 2011
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Master_Iris said:
there is a lot more going on then mixed termonology that I know for sure even if thats the case thier info is still conflictive with Mr Es info. Not saying they mean to have bad intent they are nice people. Its Just thier info is conflictive and some of it is even shakey at best beings from any realm really is always a few steps ahead of us and we must be careful who we tred and recieve info from. Mr.E should not have to be defending himself and I think assumptions To be honest is making RF team defensive. but like I told ashy she should follow her own truth just because its conflictive to us doesnt make it any less of a truth for her
The information is most likely conflictive because:
*They are from COMPLETELY different cultures. His area is not near where they are from. Think about this: Ireland is different in culture than Japan. You get different words, languages, customs, ways to run governments, different histories and mythologies. This could be a huge factor in the miscommunication. And I think we should discuss it.
*Our fae don't use English in the best ways possible, because they don't quite understand it. Silverlance is closest to understanding because he has more experience with the language, but Nevermore is completely new to it.
*If the cultures are different, then of course the information will vary. Unseelie and Seelie courts in his area may be different than the courts in Ireland.
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オレソジの太陽
夕暮れに君と見た
オレソジの太陽
泣きそうな顔をして
永遠の…さよなら
ゆうぐれに君とみたい
オレンジのたいよう
なきそうなかおをして
えいえんの…さよなら
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Member | Aislinn posts 61 4:00 pm April 26, 2011
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Master_Iris said:
I think
MyWorldAcrossTheVeil
meant you should have known prior or something along those lines
That is what I am saying. =_= Our fae would contest it only if they didn't think he really was. Our fae are not stupid or defensive or have qualms with Mr. E and who he is.
I am trying to tell you that we all understand and know that he is of royal bloodline. =_= Not that we don't think he is.
Besides. I am really curious as to why no one here has heard of Tuatha de Dannan, who are royalties of the fae. Mr. E should fill you in on who they are.
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オレソジの太陽
夕暮れに君と見た
オレソジの太陽
泣きそうな顔をして
永遠の…さよなら
ゆうぐれに君とみたい
オレンジのたいよう
なきそうなかおをして
えいえんの…さよなら
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