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I came to this site as skeptical as they come and just barly grasping the existance pf something beyond the physical world but then I talked to people here on the chat. At first i was  untrusting and didn't reveal much I mostly sked questions. Later though I met Mel. Mel was a fae that I had noticed because I kept feeling like i was being watched. So I tried to find out what it was I kept feeling I eventualy made contact with her and tried talking. So as they say the rest is history. There is a bit more to it but I thought I'd just compact it into a less of a long post.

I am also a strong believer of 'believing is seeing" because if you don't believe something is there why look? Anyway, I have not had proof (as in the kind you can feel, see, hear or taste) but I still believe 100%

I'd have to put myself in the "I know 'cause I saw/heard it" category, with a great big dollop of "well, there've been all these little things happen that could, by themselves, easily be explained by coincidence…but when you put them all together, Occam's Razor starts to apply and suggest something other than coincidence." So for me it's like, I know the Cousins exist, but usually have to guess when they're around because my subtle senses are still somewhat hit and miss.

As a kid I once saw something/someone in the hallway of my house at a point in time when I was quite happily thinking of nothing but Barbie dolls, and whoever it was, they quite definitely were nothing like a Barbie doll so I'm sure it wasn't my imagination.

I've had things appear and disappear, electronics and mechanical things mysteriously malfunction and/or start working again after they'd been broken for months. (Ie a television suddenly switch channels, a radio suddenly turn itself on and be unable to be switched off again, etc. etc.) Physical objects (ie a missing sock) have mysteriously appeared outside my bedroom door when no one else was home. There've been a number of smaller things as well, but I am not including them since they can also be explained by other means, so there's more doubt about them.

I agree with Kikuyo, though, about the point that "believing is seeing" tends to be how things work. I seem to notice that people are more prone to accept facts that support their beliefs, rather than allowing their beliefs to be molded by observed facts. It seems to take the kind of mind that believes that beliefs should be molded by fact (ie a scientific mind) in order to work the other way around.

As my boyfriend the scientist once reminded me, science is a process and a 'fact' cannot be considered to be verified until it can be consistantly reproduced by multiple people. I think that's where we have trouble relating the arts of science and faith; Nearly everyone can go outside and percieve a tree in the front yard, and agree that a tree exists there. But not many people have developed the subtle perceptions necessary to percieve fae, or auras, or things of that ilk. So most people cannot easily verify those facts, and for them such things exist only in the realm of faith.

This may be an over-generalization, but I think people who work in the hard sciences such as physics and chemistry seem to want to look at things on a purely physical level. This seems like a bit of a shame, because you can't directly measure subtle energies with purely physical means; at best you could only measure their effects on physical things, which leaves room for doubt and misinterpretation. Perhaps overall there are more people who work in the softer sciences (such as biology and psychology) that are open to the nonphysical things? But there again you have squidge room in the data (hence why they're called 'soft' sciences) since no two people or organisms are precisely alike. So again, there is room for creative interpretation. Interesting dilemna, no? I often think this says a lot about the basic nature of the universe and how it really works. :)

Thank you all for your responses. They are all very interesting!

“It just so happens that society has come to favor one view over the other.”

I agree with you, Kikuyo. I think that science is just another way to explain things, and has some answers, but to really understand something it is necesary to look at it from different angles.

“I would like to see a system where faith and science really work together, where they elevate each other.”

That would be amazing. The closest I have gotten to that is Jungian psychology, but I believe alchemy is a very good place to start. Of course, I am dangerous with chemicals so I should stay away from chemical alchemy XD Spiritual alchemy and symbol study is an alternative for the laboratory impaired like me.

“because if you don't believe something is there why look”

Good point, Sairahiniel. I also think that we need a little belief to start looking. Without it, we are insensitive to whatever we might see if we look closer.

“allowing their beliefs to be molded by observed facts”

Athidal, I think you shared a very important insight. I am a person who strongly stands for what she believes, but I often try to have some evidence to support my belief (specially before myself). I suppose I can't funcion without that (which might earn me the tag of neurotic by some of my colleagues XD). But, as you say, what is the use of evidence, if our belief is not changed by fact? Fact is a confirmation of what we intuitively know.

I hope more people can join this discussion.

Daji

I don't believe, I know.

I remember about a year ago, one of my online friends was complaining about her other friends always cracking homosexual jokes when she brought up the topic of faeries.    While she was posting me this,   a foreign thought entered my mind, which I believe was from a faery or elven Being in my room reading the posts with me.

The thought was, "a person has to have an open heart before they can have an open mind"

How true that is.    Some believe and have never seen–      In my situation I was blessed to see one face to face- after a prayer to God that He would allow me to meet one of these "Nature Guardians" if they existed.       My prayer wasn't sarcastic, but a sincere prayer and with a sincere desire to connect with them.

Not only do faeries exist in the dimension near ours- but our Creator also exists and has created more intelligent Beings before we humans were ever created that we have no idea.

I was willing to wait until however long God would permit me to meet one of these Beings-  and I even expected He wouldnt grant my prayer until maybe right before I died one day.   It was onlly one month later –and totally unexpected, beleive me!      Also, this faery , I feel was with me all the time, but I never knew it…   and she was surprised that I was able to suddenly see her for that 1-2 minutes too!

Daji: I would love to hear some of your experiences which you lay lead you to say you 'know' other worldly things exist.

I am skeptical about fae. I am very very quietly spiritual, I know God exists, and I think for some reason or other, I've always known angels exist.. and I am very comfortable with that. Maybe it is because it is so mainstream and common to hear about God and angels. 

I WANT to believe whole heartedly/know that fairies exist, but I am keeping my mind open while doing research. When I'm outside, I feel like they do because it makes sense in my heart. I am just nervous of getting carried away.

Also, it's hard for me to believe when people say they see them through their 'mind's eye'. Because to me, I don't see the difference between that and imagination for now.

This is my first post on the site but i have been reading everything. Growing up i have always felt as i dont belong. Also knowing i have been diffrent. I hid it from every one. I was more in touch with my self and all things when i was younger. I also would see things but it wasnt exactly seeing it. It was more of a memory. I remember things that i never could explain. I rememberd as i though another world but it was like our world. Also diffrent cause there wasnt electrisity, or many more things. It was just as Mr. E discribed his world. I remember the things as we come to learn as mystical creatures, such as dragons, cenetors, phoenixs, so so much more. Those that i most of all remember are the Elves. What keeped bringing the memories is actuly the fairytails that have been told over and over again. So threw out my life i have been seeing what was a life diffrent from my own but it felt so real and it feels at home. I remember parties, and bits of pieces of music, also language unlike our own. One thing is i also miss the feelings that i felt in these memories. The love the bond one has with each other nature. The conection one has between there loved one. This is what i miss most of all. I remember having a family. I never felt this here as human. Maybe this is why i am still single and searching for something that cant ever be the same. I have tried to fall in love here and i have a son. something was always missing when i was in all my relationships. The actual bond and truely feeling each other. Truely being conected to each other.

Thing is i grew up not understanding anything. Why i am diffrent? why i feel so far from home? why am i having these visions/memories that i am having? I have been out of place for so so long and only thing that has truely made sence to me is as Mr. E said. I have blocked to much out in my life. I cant say that these are actuly memories or even if they are of my own. I do believe that they are and i feel that they are. Each and every day i end up getting bits and pieces of more.

This is just my experiance.

BlueTiger, have you considered hypnosis/past lives sessions? You might be able to find the answers you've been looking for…

I both believe and I KNOW without a shadow of a doubt that they exist. I've had too many things happen to me, too many of them ticking around in my body for me to NOT be absolutely freaking sure that they exist. I've seen my girlfriend (whose from a small town in the middle of missouri) speak ANCIENT-FREAKING-GAELIC, a language that neither of us know, and I've rattled off things in old Scandinavian, or welsh or old english, and those are DEFINITELY not languages that I can easily get my hands around.

I can also see them, my faeries and my girlfriend's faeries and my roommate's faeries. I can sometimes even see other people's faeries, but they have to WANT me to see them. I also sometimes know things that I wouldn't normally… seriously. I was channelling one my roommate's unseelie faeries and he said some things that I KNOW I couldn't have known.

I believe… and I know.

Hey Faerie_Firbolg and Aislinn

                                                   Ladies I have 1 very personal question if its okay with you. I dont know if you can answer this. But me & my husband so much want the STORK to visit in our 6 yrs marriage. Do you guys have the ability to prophesize or predict or give a fairy reading or sumthing ? No pressure, if you can't then I completely understand. Thank you for listening to me though. I have a condition called PCOs or PCOd which is preventing me to concieve. If you can help in any wat bcz I wanna avoid surgery. I think I've talked to Fairie_Firbolg and Nevermore recently a lot.

I understand that this is NOT a personal problem forum bcz I am one of the OLD members here. But if there's any HELP you guys can offer dat'll be SUPER and if not then dats fine too.

I know everything is in the hands of GOD so besides trying I have left everything to our sweet Lord.

Thanx for listening to me girls. I appreciate it.

Take care

Navneeta