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Can anyone help with a message from what I think are elves?

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Member

Elffriend

posts 13

1:00 am June 19, 2011

I found this forum after an internet search on "real elves," and came across
the posting on Elves of Fyn.  I had a very strange experience at a Pagan
ritual to honor the fey and land spirits and I was hoping perhaps someone
may be able to help me make more sense of it.

At the ritual, a
group of people, myself included, were asked to sing at a labyrinth.  It
was huge and marked with beautiful candles, alters to the environment
were set at the four directions.  We were instructed not to sing a song,
but to use our voices as instruments.  Which we did, but then the
sounds became syllables and then seemed to be words and phrases.  Then
we, the singers started walking the labyrinth. 
I have very little memory of the experience…I hope that you don't
think of me as some sort of crackpot…but apparently I stopped singing
and started speaking
in a language somewhat like Swedish.

The people at the ritual
just let me go about speaking, but I faltered on the ground and a friend
took me out of the labyrinth.  I suddenly snapped out of it and was
left feeling very euphoric.  I swear to you I had not a shred of any
kind of intoxicating compound in me and this is not at all something I
have ever done.

A few moments later the friend who helped me
pointed to the edge of the labyrinth.  There was a ghostly like figure
standing there.  I read the description of the Fyn and it fits it to a tee.  It was
about human sized, and seemed to be in a long cloak.  Once I looked at
it, it turned and walked up the hill, and sort of faded away.

I
have a strange sense of what I was saying and when I read the post on
the Elves of Fyn it was so similar.  I feel that I was speaking about
the land and how important it was to give reverence and honor.  I feel
that there was
joy about this ancient ritual being performed, but there is a sense of
anger about the disrepair of the environment. 

My five year old
son asked me if I remember anything of what I said.  He told me that "I
had gone" and that there were "lights around my head."  I told him I
didn't really remember, but I told him the impressions I had.  Then my
son said "Osa mah," it startled me because I recognized it as something I
had said more than once. 

It isn't Osama as in the deceased Bin
Ladin.  The stress was on the Mah part.  It seems to be of terrible
importance.  I am a little familiar with Tolkien's Elvish that was based
in Scandinavian tongues, but what I was speaking, wasn't that…though
there seemed to be similarities.  There were many others there at that
labyrinth, and a few that work with fey entities.  I was told I was
speaking some kind of high Elvish language. 
But no one
could translate.  I think "osa mah" might mean "honor," but I was
hoping someone might know of some resources that could help me recover the
meaning.

Those at the labyrinth said I was possessed.  It that's
the case, I think it was the ghostly figure at the edge of the
labyrinth.  It left after my friend pointed it out to me, as if it
wanted me to see it before it left. 

Or I could be just mental.

Either way,  your thoughts and assistance would be most appreciated.

Another musing…should I try to do that again?  The message seemed so important…but I tell you, it was more than a bit frightening.  Is there a safe way to go about it?

Member

ta

posts 701

5:46 am June 19, 2011

I am a beginner to ritual and things pagan would do. I just know what happen to you is very interesting.

If that thing doesn't feel threaten to you, maybe you can try it again. But I think the best answer is, can you take another experience that may be more intense because if you decide to try again, it may be more intense.

Really what happen is very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

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Lisa A.- Grey Eyes

Pennsylvania

posts 2506

12:53 pm June 19, 2011

Hi, that does sound very interesting!  I would proceed cautiously and pray about the experience-  and ask for confirmation that this was not a diabolic entity that temporarily entered your body making you THINK it was Elven.

Nevertheless, I do 100% agree very much with the message about how this Earth is to be revered and honored- and what a big disgrace it is that it is sooo abused by the hands of mankind..     This is very true and I share in this  Being's expression of this.      It could very well have been someone from the Elven or Sidhe realm reaching out to the humans that will listen

 

Hugs and welcome to our forum here :-)

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Faecat

Texas

posts 673

1:49 pm June 20, 2011

Unfortunantly the only fae we know is "awktoo Brewanay" which means the 8 united. Nat could ask Mr.E if you send her a PM or go to Ask Mr.E form. I know a little about Pagan rituals but I know the energy you were using did make you vulnerable. Be careful. Ask the fae if the have a message and meditate about it. That's the safest way I can think of.

          

 

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stellar

posts 370

2:43 pm June 20, 2011

I have sent you a private message that hopefully can be of help.


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                              How far the unknown transcends the what we know

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Bluefirephoenix

posts 891

9:11 am June 22, 2011

We can eliminate any relationship to scandinavian languages. I checked with native speakers and one who is also knowledgable in Old Norse, Swedish, Danish, Icelandic, Norweigen and German. Welsh troops of the good people were reported as having ancient greek influence in the language… it does not bear any significant resemblence to modern greek unless the word is broken up then it's an incomplete reference. only one sylable remotely resembles a word.

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Elffriend

posts 13

10:47 am June 22, 2011

Thank you for doing some research for me Bluefirephoenix.  The Greek influence actually makes a lot of sense about something else…thank you! 

Everyone has been amazing!  I've learned so much.

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Laululintu

Texas

posts 10

2:13 pm June 22, 2011

It could be Finnish. In Finnish, "osa" means "part"; and "mah" means "possible." It could be a fragment of a sentance, or if it were a sentance by itself, it would translate to "Part of the possible." I'm learning Finnish but I'm just a beginner.

“Wasting time is stealing from oneself.” –Estonian Proverb

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Bluefirephoenix

posts 891

2:54 pm June 22, 2011

One of the swedes would be familiar with Finnish I believe. Anyway the greek applies only to the Black mountain Welsh troops and only the type that live underground.  It was the opinion of the parish priest and he may have only been going by a word or two that sounded similar caution is advisable. Fear is not.

 A wait and see attitude would probably be best. If it were me I would try to conjure the spirit and speak to it. A name is required to do that, if the spirit refuses it's possible it's malevolent . 

I had something happen recently that made me realize the importance of this.

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Laululintu

Texas

posts 10

3:14 pm June 22, 2011

Bluefirephoenix said:

One of the swedes would be familiar with Finnish I believe.


It's true, Finland and Sweden are right next to each other, but since Finland isn't related to other Nordic languages, most Swedes wouldn't speak it, especially since Sweden has a much larger population. Finns are more likely to speak Swedish, and since both speak English well, they might use that as a medium when the talk to each other. I think the "osa mah" may just be a coincidence though.

“Wasting time is stealing from oneself.” –Estonian Proverb

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Laululintu

Texas

posts 10

3:16 pm June 22, 2011

Oops! I'm kind of new to posting. I didn't mean to put my reply in with the quote. Embarassed

“Wasting time is stealing from oneself.” –Estonian Proverb

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Elffriend

posts 13

10:38 pm June 22, 2011

Laululintu said:

It could be Finnish. In Finnish, "osa" means "part"; and "mah" means "possible." It could be a fragment of a sentance, or if it were a sentance by itself, it would translate to "Part of the possible." I'm learning Finnish but I'm just a beginner.


That is incredibly interesting.

 

When I started to entertain the idea of Otherkin, the kind of elf I imagined myself to be was like the elves of J.R.R. Tolkien.   The descriptions I have found on the Shiri describe them as "Tolkien-like elves."  Tolkien based his elves on Scandinavian folklore elves and…his elfin language?  He based it in Finnish.

 

Another note, it was said once that Tolkien didn't make up his language…he remembered it.

 

Maybe Tolkien was the original Otherkin.

 

Interesting possiblity.

 

I used to make little post it notes for myself of one liner truths I had learned.  One of my favorites, was "Anything imagined is a possible possibilty."

 

"Part of the possible" completely resonnates.  Laululintu, I could kiss you! Kiss

 

But may I just say, you are all awesome!

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stellar

posts 370

11:00 pm June 22, 2011

If I'm not mistaken Mr. E once said that Lord of the Rings was actually pretty close to what it's really like. I've always found it eerie that Tolkien "knows" so much about the fae. Like Tolkien elves are very close to what real elves look like. I think one of his languages, Quenya, is also close to real Elvish. How does he do this?!


Being too full of sleep to understand
                              How far the unknown transcends the what we know

Member

Elffriend

posts 13

11:11 pm June 22, 2011

I would say…he was an elf.Smile

Member

Laululintu

Texas

posts 10

3:01 am June 23, 2011

Elffriend said:

Laululintu said:

It could be Finnish. In Finnish, "osa" means "part"; and "mah" means "possible." It could be a fragment of a sentance, or if it were a sentance by itself, it would translate to "Part of the possible." I'm learning Finnish but I'm just a beginner.


That is incredibly interesting.
 

When I started to entertain the idea of Otherkin, the kind of elf I imagined myself to be was like the elves of J.R.R. Tolkien.   The descriptions I have found on the Shiri describe them as "Tolkien-like elves."  Tolkien based his elves on Scandinavian folklore elves and…his elfin language?  He based it in Finnish.

 

Another note, it was said once that Tolkien didn't make up his language…he remembered it.

 

Maybe Tolkien was the original Otherkin.

 

Interesting possiblity.

 

I used to make little post it notes for myself of one liner truths I had learned.  One of my favorites, was "Anything imagined is a possible possibilty."

 

"Part of the possible" completely resonnates.  Laululintu, I could kiss you! Kiss

 

But may I just say, you are all awesome!


Ha ha! Thanks! I didn't really expect my comment to be helpful, just a speculation Smile

“Wasting time is stealing from oneself.” –Estonian Proverb

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Bluefirephoenix

posts 891

9:57 am June 24, 2011

Lau, he's referred to Finish Sagas before. … He would work with them in the original language more than likely. That's why I would suspect he is familiar with it. He's a folklore and folkmagic expert. I'm aware that there are significant differences between the Finnish folklore and language and the rest of scandinavia. 

But like you said there's not enough there to really tell and another thing is that unfamiliarity with the language may cause distortion in a channeling situation. Even though it's impressive to see, and obviously very popular,  it's a form of communication that is easiest to distort. If no filtering devices are used goodness knows what your getting it's about like working an Ouiji board. Even Voodou which focuses entirely on channeling use veves and alters to  help ensure that the right spirit is there.

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SaranelTonight

Buzzzz

posts 416

3:01 pm June 26, 2011

stellar said:

If I'm not mistaken Mr. E once said that Lord of the Rings was actually pretty close to what it's really like. I've always found it eerie that Tolkien "knows" so much about the fae. Like Tolkien elves are very close to what real elves look like. I think one of his languages, Quenya, is also close to real Elvish. How does he do this?!


Maybe he has had a connection?
I dunno if it's just me, or a lot of authors seem to have these connections lol
He could have maybe slipped into their world, or maybe he could even be "part" elf, which, is definitely not impossible.
Not likely, but not impossible, and thinking how he knew all these things…
I would say maybe he was one, but i don't think his ears were pointy lol

 

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