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I had a teacher of mine from the Foxwood Tradition, once try to explain the Fae to me.  He told me (this is not a direct quote but the general idea), that the Fae are some kind of creature from another dimension…if you study String Theory at all, this is scientifically possible. I try to use as much science, psychology and etc. as I can in my work, because I AM a woman of science and you can fit it in to make sense of all this or at least draw some conclusions. I have seen enough and had enough experiences in my life, that I do believe in entities and otherworldly things, as well as the fact there is a scientific answer for them.

Anyway, my teacher told me to think of it like a computer.  Our human brains are hardwired into this dimension of reality.  That means that lts compare it to having a computer program of our dimension we live in.  If we have something punch a hole in their dimension and come to ours, it would be like having a program that is not programed into our computer, just step into our reality.  Our human brains to try to figure out this "thing" would have to "put" something in there, so there is no blank space, to compensate for this. This is why some creature like this, would be odd looking, or would be different to everyone, because of that. Also if you were talking about the fourth dimension, then you would actually be dealing with "time".  Which is what things like Picasso's paintings are done in and why they have three arms and eyes and heads and etc. The fourth dimension would be movement or time.  In my personal opinion, this would make total and absolute sense. Every culture of humans has something similar to the Fae. Or some beings such as them.  Beings that are somehow linked to humans, but not necessarily so they like us, or some feel they are watching us or monitoring us. Some would call these "angels" or Extraterrestrials". Or one if the same.  Some of these beings may be connected to certain lineages or families and are just watching us and their time is different then ours in their universe.

To the Ceremonial Magicians, some books I have read, they believe in the Fae. They also think they are incredibly dangerous because they are unpredictable. They can be friendly with humans, not care about humans and also they can be Malevolent to humans. Much like the Djinn, their cousins to the south, which are primarily fire spirits.

What do you folks think?

Ceremonial magicians tend to be a very conservative   and many in my opinion are very fearful of spirits. I've worked with Enochain angels and they can be just as unpredicatable as any Sidhe.  I think part of the problem is that the Sidhe have very strict rules regarding  behavior when interacting with humans. Humans tend to think we'rea superior race and disregard this.  Almost every incident you read about involves something along these lines breeching confidences, stealing, ect.  We cannot control the Sidhe.  Whats more they're capable of invoking and evoking humans so the tables can be totally turned. This goes very much against the CM grain.

Okay who are they. The story about the fallen angel bit came from Skye in about the 18th century. It was very popular until the Victiorian ere. I pretty much discount that.

I think they're a number of different things. First they're ancestoral, we're related to them physically. In every shamanistic tradition there is an indication of this. Read Elaide's book sometime. Even Genesis gives an indication of this. Exactly how this happened or what happened that created the rift who knows.  They're spirits but they're different than other spirits because they can become physical and I''m not sure it's entirely by posession. They can do posession also. There are local accounts of people stumbling into the otherworld here where I live. This is found both in the Scottish group and the Mi'kama. So the otherworld must be a place that can be accessed by our world under certain conditions.  I'm inclined to go with the interdemensional theory. There are two demension that intertwine and interact with each other. One is a shadow of the other … like the Celtic knots the artwork represents the intertwining of the two worlds. We have a part of our history that comes from that world. So we have a capability of going there. It''s limited but it's there.  That demension is inhabited by many sentient races and species.  Also has a wide variety of animal life much more diverse than this world is. Some of the inhabitatants of that world can come fairly freely here in their spirit form some appear more physical than others. I'm not sure how that works I do know that some inhabitants cannot cross the void/abyss/veil. others can. 

The humanoid races are very similar culturally to humans and it's easy to see that we're related. Intermarriages used to occur more  commonly. Modern examples I know of only one who claims to be a half half hybrid. There were two men here who were in relationships one came from Skye to get away from the relationship which of course didn't work. and the other misbehaved and got into trouble.  She was a shapeshifter and he beat her up in her animal form when she went back to Sidhe again she let him have it.

 THe accounts are fairly consistant through the years. THere are local accounts here granted people don't talk about it much but those that do we see enough similarities to the older folklore stories to allow that there is at least some of it that we can take literally.  My own experience also reflect this as well.

I don't think that CM is necessarily a bad thing. My other half is CM and as conservative as they come. We have Agrippa for breakfast lunch and dinner around here. To their defense  the emphasis on names is of great importance to the Sidhe. You notice that Mr. E does not give his real name here in this forum. It's entirely possible that neither Susan nor Natalie know it either. We are given names to use in interaction but these are usually names made up on the spot. . This possibly is a validation of Cabbalistic concepts regarding letters and names.  In Liber Logaeth there are two charms which might be useful if there is a concern about the nature of the sidhe. One is a word that can be used in place of a name. The other is a glamor breaking spell.  I've never had cause to use either spell.  The one for honesty isn't necessary. They don't lie. ( they do interpret things very very differently from a human though) and I've never had any need to bind one.