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I think the symptoms of wasting type diseases mostly infections used to be considered changling. In some stories the changlings went failure to thrive and died. Could organ failure, digestive diseases a number of other problems that would cause a normal child to malnourish and die  inspite of proper nourisment. Remember infant mortality was near 25% back then a quarter of the babies born died of various causes.  The Changling explanation allows the grief stricken parents to have some hope that their child is still alive.

However, there is one story of a human woman whose finacee found her changed and living  with the sidhe when they went topside for a festival and she mentioned she took care of changed children. The guy managed to return but he too died within a year … not unusual most people do not survive long after being any legnth of time in their world, or even the between places they create on certain occasions.

Now I think these are children who died  But most of the time when a child died of a disease or something that wasn't apparent they were said to have been stolen and a changling or stock was put in their place.

How they do it now days or if they do? I know of modern cases that sound suspicious, but the cases I suspect   are late adolescent. We don't attribute things to the Sidhe so maybe we're at the other extreme that a bereaved sidhe parent may steal a human child?  Lucky kid.

The question is do we go there when we die?

I had alsways heard that faeries liked human babes and knew the talent they would posess in life and liked their innocence so they would steal them away and replace them with a changeling, something that looked like a child, but was really void of much life and 'soul'

Lisa A.- Grey Eyes said:

Also,  I also believe that there possibly have been Grey alien abductions of children and women even centuries ago–  and especially those types of abductions were blamed on the Faery as well- especially when there was no other explanation as to how a child was taken from thier bed.

Faery and Aliens are not to be confused, however — there is a BIG difference between them-  though both can be interdimensional.    From Ron Corde's Book, “A Faerytale”  –   The faeries who spoke through him especially gave a tongue lashing to aliens for thier exploitation of this Earth that they treasure.   They said that it's bad enough humans are exploiting this planet- and we don't need THEM over here doing the same as well!

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I've actually read that a lot of alien abductions by "Greys" are actually things that are staged by man through "Programmable Life Forms" in effort to induce fear of Extraterrestrials into the general public. There is a difference between "aliens" that we fear and the real Extraterrestials. From what I gather there are many different species of Greys and one (or some) of them are made by humans and used by humans. It's a very complicated subject and a there have been a lot misunderstandings since it's something that's always been covered up and considered "taboo" to even talk about in our society. So we are pretty much kept in the dark when it comes to ETs. Anyway, that is just from my research because I do have an interest in ETs. I  could be wrong. I have also read somewhere in this forum that Mr. E says there are many Extraterrestrial races helping out.

I wish I was abducted by the Sidhe.

Adamaris said:

Lisa A.- Grey Eyes said:

Also,  I also believe that there possibly have been Grey alien abductions of children and women even centuries ago–  and especially those types of abductions were blamed on the Faery as well- especially when there was no other explanation as to how a child was taken from thier bed.

Faery and Aliens are not to be confused, however — there is a BIG difference between them-  though both can be interdimensional.    From Ron Corde's Book, “A Faerytale”  –   The faeries who spoke through him especially gave a tongue lashing to aliens for thier exploitation of this Earth that they treasure.   They said that it's bad enough humans are exploiting this planet- and we don't need THEM over here doing the same as well!

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I've actually read that a lot of alien abductions by “Greys” are actually things that are staged by man through “Programmable Life Forms” in effort to induce fear of Extraterrestrials into the general public. There is a difference between “aliens” that we fear and the real Extraterrestials. From what I gather there are many different species of Greys and one (or some) of them are made by humans and used by humans. It's a very complicated subject and a there have been a lot misunderstandings since it's something that's always been covered up and considered “taboo” to even talk about in our society. So we are pretty much kept in the dark when it comes to ETs. Anyway, that is just from my research because I do have an interest in ETs. I  could be wrong. I have also read somewhere in this forum that Mr. E says there are many Extraterrestrial races helping out.

I wish I was abducted by the Sidhe.

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Not to get further off the subject but

Adamaris, I heard of something similar too- but the faery that Ron Cordes channeled and posted her message in his book was referring to the Reptilian type Aliens-  some of which are exploiting this planet for lodestone, etc- and from what I understand,the Reptilians claim this planet is theirs and never was mankind's to begin with– and they live underground — under the earth in cavern type areas.  

Human government and military is very involved with them- and the Greys being used

Changelings are entirely possible, though I'm speaking on a strictly Irish and Celtic based experiences, and they are EXPERIENCES, not research (though I have that too). As far as I'm aware of, the easiest way for the switch to happen when humans are babies (it's the easiest, but it's not the only way). Usually, they prefer it to happen in the womb, because then there is no exchange, the human parents have relations to procure a faerie child, and by that, I mean that they are urged to procreate by fae nudge. The faerie soul is inserted into the womb instead of a human soul, thus a faerie souled child comes out instead of a human one, thus many humans who are faeries were born this way.

 

Humans can also be switched after birth, and it usually happens anywhere from the time that humans/fae are between one year and two years old, normally this takes place during the night, just because nobody's paying attention to the child and it can easily be done. This is where the mythos about the "terrible twos" comes from, because "my child wasn't this much of a monster before, he/she must have been stolen away by the fae". There is a great many ways that a person can tell whether or not their child is a changeling, including tests that are good for neither the parents or the child. In the Middle Ages, many babies and children were mudered by their own parents because their parents thought that they had been stolen away.

 

The other way that a changeling can happen is through a ritual mirror. There has to be a human and faerie ritual done at the same time on the same day. I actually have more experience with this one than the other two. I have a friend who has memories of two lives, one as a boy and the other as a girl. She was involved in a cult when she was really young and a couple of months ago to a few weeks ago, Valor and I have been going though things with her, with her permission.

 

She said that I could also post this btw. But, there's a particular memory that she had when she was young, where she was given two baths (one regular bath and one with salt water), then dressed in white, her hair dried and braided. The cult then drew symbols and runes on her hands, feet, chest, back and forehead, then made her lay down in a pentagram and began chanting around her. This is the human side of it.

 

The faerie side of it is somewhat similar, but still different: She was a boy, for one. And he was given two baths, once with his guardian and once with salt. His hair was cut and dried, and he was dressed in robes and dragged to a different building. They painted him with symbols and pentagrams with black ink and soft brushes, and then he was told to lay down in the pentagram like before, each person performing the ritual stood with a candle and made a humming noise.

 

My friend says that at this point all she remembers doing after that was waking up in her friend's bed. It's not a dream, I promise and she wants you to know that it's not a dream. 

 

I want everyone to know that I do have permission to post this, and Natalie, if you find it a bit too adult for this section of the forum I can post it somewhere else. But Valor says that this kind of ritual is not done often, nor is it particularly easy, but that it's planned from before the human is born and that it's done so that fae can learn about human societies better than they can interacting, because not all humans can channel. Finding channelers and mediums that can operate on faerie wavelengths is extremely difficult.

 

Valor also says that the other reason that it's done is to put a faerie child in the path of someone else, to meet or interract with someone they're supposed to meet or be friends with or learn from, but that this DOES NOT happen often. He wants you to know that you really do have more of a chance of being struck by lightning four times by standing in the same spot then you have this happening.

 

I just figured that since the question was asked, I would answer with what I know.

 

Please let me know if I should post this elsewhere.

 

~Ashy

the cases of changlings were done by the unseelie and were very rare. ususally it was a stick enchanted by glamour or a baby fae that wasn't doing well.

IluvDance said:

thats really interesting. Is this connected to being an incarnated fae or is this totally different??

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Sometimes. Faeries are generally more interested in their own, I've noticed, than humans that aren't faeries. However, they also like humans that have faerie blood or have an interesting talent or just have a colourful aura. So, I think with that said, it can really be anyone. Some fae are just interested in someone that's really pretty. Anything could catch their eye.

stellar said:

OK I have a question. Why would a faery exchange a faery child with a human one? That's like going to the pound and replacing your child with a puppy or something. How could they give up their children like it's nothing to them?

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My guess is that some fae, who don't really care for their child, decide to play tricks on their humans, while getting rid of their child as well.

 

Also, Changelings don't always have to be "Exchanged" , a fae can simply just deposit it's child into a new home, although that it is unlikely that it will not be realized.

 

Another reason may be because fae may be more curious in human children, or may believe the human children are easier to take care of, since they don't live as long..etc

slave_to_valor said:

Techically, that's not the case, especially since once humans entire the world of Faerie/Tir Na NOg, they tend to become much like faeries themselves, sometimes taking on fae qualities or simply having a longer lifespan. Actually, most children who have been stolen into faerie remain as children there, while their bodies/faerie counter parts grow up and age as with a normal life span. Also, humans that go into faerie and eat faerie foods and come back, will long for the food of faerie and never wish to touch human foods again, withering away and dying.

 

While I don't have much experience with this, I do have some. However, much of it is only speculation.

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what make their food so different from the human food?
why would the child not age in fairy land? whose body would the child be in in fairy land? Would the child die if thier counter part dies?

does that mean even changeling does not know they are changeling?

why do their time flow different from our?