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Hi Lisa,

"Faeries are not Elementals as some would have you believe."

This goes along with what the Elves of Fyn have said about fairies not being elementals and (vice versa) even though many people say otherwise.  Thanks for adding this here.

Natalie

I have to say, as far as I know, fairies were never people.

admin said:

I have to say, as far as I know, fairies were never people.

I am fairly sure our kind admin didn't mean things quite this way, but I do have to point out a potential issue with the way this response is phrased. What, exactly, is meant by the word "people"? My Webster's College Dictionary defines it as, among other things, "A human being, as opposed to an animal or a thing."  Obiously the fae aren't any of these three things. (Well, one could argue being animals…but only in the same sense one could argue that humans are also animals.) This could easily turn into a very deep topic that is maybe not suited to this forum, but I will just say this – what's the point of trying to communicate with someone if you don't think they are a person?

Just something to think about, for those who want to communicate with the fae.

Hi Natalie,

I'm sorry if it sounded like I was trying to say that you shouldn't be communicating with the fae. I didn't mean that at all! I completely understand why you would have used the word 'people' in response to Dante's post, and in that context it makes sense. You've made it quite clear on a number of occasions that both you and the Elves of Fyn consider the relationship between humans and fae as being of one between equals. That's really more or less what I was trying to get at, in the hope that people besides yourself and dante are reading this thread – especially folks who are still new to the concept of fae as real beings.

My previous post wasn't really aimed at you so much as at trying to provoke other folks who haven't thought through the issue of equality to do so. In the past I've seen some folks on this site post about things such as wanting to "catch a faerie and make it grant them wishes", and other things like that,  that seem to show the cousins being thought of as an "it" rather than "them", style of thing. To me, this shows that some people think of faeries the way some folks think of animals and things – as objects to be used or toyed with, rather than as equals who deserve respect.

Being that through history one of the reasons people have given for mistreating other people who aren't like themselves is that "they aren't really people", I thought it might be a vaguely important semantic point to bring up and get people to think about. *grin*  As I said, my post wasn't meant to be specifically aimed at you – it just happened to use your post as a launching point, which perhaps I shouldn't have done. Looking back, perhaps it would have been better to simply start a new topic.

No offence was meant, and I hope you will forgive me if any was incurred.

Your servant,

Athidal

Thanks Natalie, I'm glad we're on the same page now. :)

Thanks again for all your work here – I always look forward to seeing your posts!

i feel that all believers are some how part fae

i find this links

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/der…..hoax.shtml

this is true?

Fire Fae said:

i feel that all believers are some how part fae

Strange. Before I became a full blown believer, I had a few tingling sensations like wings are about to grow on my back when I just kept on visiting http://www.wingmakers.co.nz. I never thought that the wings could also relate to me possibly being Fae. I may want to make a new thread about this…

Kikuyo said:

Natalie Lynn said:

Hi Lisa,

“Faeries are not Elementals as some would have you believe.”

This goes along with what the Elves of Fyn have said about fairies not being elementals and (vice versa) even though many people say otherwise.  Thanks for adding this here.

Natalie

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In the Final Fantasy XII game there are creatures called Elementals which look like big glowing, flashing, pulsing balls of colored light. And they're of a fairly high “level” and actually really dangerous lol, they'll even chase you. I've always imagined real-life elementals as similar to this, when calling the elements to my altar or in casting magick because it seems weird to me to call in one multi-faceted being (like gnomes or salamanders) to represent a single element. Are there elementals in the world where the fae live? And if so, what are they like?

So, when fae are classified by element, at least from the perspective of my “Fairy Bible” it seems to denote the place and climate they perfer to live in, sometimes stuff about their supposed personalities similar to the way humans consider themselves to have an affinity with such-and-such element. Is this correct about the fae, or should we do away with the element association thing? Or tweak it maybe?

I know what you mean about how the Faery Bible, and other books confuse the faerykind with the Elementals–    such as gnomes are supposed to symbolize the Earth Element,  etc.  

From what I understand, there are actually intelligent forces behind all of the Elements–  They are the true Elementals, –   and they are intelligent and have a conscoiusness, opinions , feelings,etc.        The Faeries work with them and they are friends with the Fae–  there is an interaction with them and the Elves, Gnomes, Pixies, Faeries, Mermaids and Mermen, etc.,etc.     Elementals are extreemly sensitive entities.     The negative emotions we humans give off is felt by them.

In the Christian scriptures- it's mentioned how Jesus rebuked the wind and the waves and told them to settle down, when their fishing boat was about to capsize.   Suddenly everything calmed down. This is because He actually was speakng to the Elementals who were having fun stirring up the wind and waves over there– and  these elementals were intelligent enough to know that they were being commanded by God's Son to cool it, so suddenly there was alot of calm.      That is something that you dont' hear the churches talking much about–  about the elementals,  and how they influence fires, hurricanes, tornadoes, etc.     With floods, it's mostly humankinds' fault, as  we destroy the trees, wetlands and marshy areas intended to contain alot of the run-off water —which results in flooding.   (  Wildfires caused by arsonists destroy alot of woodland which creates mudslides later)

I t hink when mankind comes back to alignment with the Great Spirit-   you will see more poeple having control over the elements– and the Elementals will actually listen to them.         Jesus was able to command the Elementals because He was in total alignment with the Great Spirit from His lowest chakra up to His highest chakra point.   Because of this,  Him commanding the Elementals was the same as the Great Spriit,Himself commanding them–which is why they listened.     Now if you and I try going out to a wildfire and commanding it to stop-   don't hold your breath…lol, they won't listen!