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Member | Athidal posts 646 1:28 pm April 16, 2011
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Sorry for putting this here, but I couldn't find the original thread(s) that inspired these questions. I hope you don't mind (and I hope you don't mind the questions)! ^^;
1. In other threads, the names of some of the different courts have been mentioned, with some description being given of the Seelie, Unseelie, and Rose courts. Would anyone mind giving us a description of what the other courts are about? What makes them different from each other? Are there any courts that you might consider 'safer' for humans to interact with than others?
2. In a different thread, some different kinds of Fae were mentioned…Tuatha de Danaan, Sidhe, Vanir, etc. …and in several other threads it's been explained how glamours can be used to change appearance. So if you had a room full of different fae, how could you tell the kinds apart if you can't rely on appearance? Are the kiths actually different 'races' of people, or just different cultures? In human literature the words 'elf', 'sidhe', and 'Tuatha de Danaan' seem to get mixed up a lot and used interchangeably…but that's clearly not right. How would you explain the differences between them?
((edit)) Oh, I just thought of the other question I really wanted to ask! :
3. Mr. E has mentioned a group of Eight nations that are allied in a cause to sort of advocate for humans (among, perhaps, other things). Is/are the nation(s) you represent considered part of that Eight?
Thank you for the time you've already spent talking to us. It is very interesting! :)
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Member | Faerie_Firbolg Tara, Ireland posts 91 2:41 pm April 16, 2011
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Aislinn's gonna answer your first two questions and I'm gonna take the third one, because she beat me to it.
We've heard of a possible four of the eight nations that Mr. E talks about, and those are the cities that the Tuatha de Danann originate from: Findias, Murias, Falias and Gorias. Whether those cities still exist and are part of the Eight, I don't have any idea. From what our faeries tell us and the story they keep sticking to is that those cities are not on the same layer of the Otherworld as Tir Na NOg or Annwn. None of our Tuatha de Danann have heard anything from those cities since they departed from them.
The best analogy that they can give, is that it would be like England to the United States in the 1700's; a long ways away and one that no one has contact with. Silverlance whose actually from Findias, he and his father left when he was just a child, says that he's been trying to make contact or get back for years, but it never works or goes anywhere.
We'd love to hear more information about the Eight, since we don't really know much of what they're all about either.
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Colour Chart for Faeries that steal my keyboard:
Silverlance in blue.
Ambrosia in red.
Valor in purple.
V in light blue.
Rose in Pink.
So, if I'm writing in any of these colours, I'm most likely not Ashy, I'm one of them.
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Member | Aislinn posts 61 3:48 pm April 16, 2011
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Hello! :D We don't mind the questions at all! :D
1). The other courts not described were the Night/Bright courts, Winter/Summer courts, Moon/Sun courts, and White/Black courts. There are also courts that are divided by the elements (ex: kappa from Unseelie Water court).
Night/Bright courts are the ones who determine activity of night and day. Some fae prefer to associate with night interaction and some with the day. The Night/Bright courts can include fae such as the sandman (night court) and most gnomes are bright court.
Summer and Winter Courts control the seasons of the year and there are rituals around the Solstices where the Winter court King and the Summer court Queen exchange their crown to take over the seasons. These are two of the most important courts second to the Seelie/Unseelie courts. The Winter king is currently Unseelie and the Summer queen is currently Seelie. Moon and Sun courts are exact opposites, and enemies with each other.
The Moon court is protected by the revolution of the moon around the earth and is headed by a queen. They are to maintain the rotation and cycles of the moon and see to it that there are appropriate months in the year. Sun court's duty is to make sure that there are the proper number of days in the year and that the earth's plantations get what they need from the Sun. According to one of my fae, there are apparently a lot of wars between the Sun and Moon court over power and rights.
Black and White courts consist of mostly Knights for the other courts. These courts are responsible for the Great Potato Famine when there was a falling out between the Seelie courts of the Black and White court.
I wouldn't say so much what would be "safer" for humans based on court than it would be based on the fae they interact with. All the courts have fae who are divided into other courts. Nevermore = Seelie/Summer/Moon court but not part of the other courts.
2). We determine what kind of fae they are based on the appearance of their glamour, their true names (we have the true names for most of our fae), and the way the behave is very important too. Their accent can also give them away. Generally, gentry fae of royal courts tend to not take on the form of one of the dregs of the courts. They prefer to usually maintain their aristocratic/humanoid appearance even with their glamour. The fae who live with us are pretty proud of who they are and don't find it appropriate to be otherwise. Also, drastic changes of their appearance requires more magic and energy for them to use, and the less time they can maintain their looks. If they are 8 feet tall and glamour themselves to look 2 feet tall, they may only be able to hold that for 1/3 of the time they could if they just changed their hair or eye color.
Most of the fae are actually different races, or at least they consider themselves to be. There are races and species. Species represents the type of fae (like fomorian vs pixie) and race represents where they come from and their culture (like Tuatha de Dannan vs Fir bolg).
If you like, I can have Nevermore put up a more detailed list of some of the fae in addition to this. He can give you more information than I can.
Fir bolg: inhabited Ireland before the Tuatha de Dannan. They were mostly farmers and barbarians. Valor says that the Fir bolgs were powerful mages who could control elements and neutralize. There is hardly any information about Fir bolgs, but Valor is very proud and loves to talk. The Fir bolg were approached by Nuada of the Tuatha de Dannan to give up half the island to the Tuatha de Dannan. They refused, and started a huge war where Nuada's arm was cut off by Sreng. Fir bolgs were completely anniliated but Sreng had made it difficult for the Tuatha de Dannan. The Morrigan helped them win the final battles with the Fir bolg. Eventually the Tuatha de Dannan settled in Connatch. Fir bolgs do not like to think of themselves as fae, but rather as humans who have been in faerie for too long. This is how Valor describes himself.
Tuatha de Dannan: The Children of the Goddess Danu and decended from Nemed. Tuatha de Dannan are described in textbooks as people who came from the four northern cities, Falias, Gorias, Murias and Finias, where they came on dark clouds with weapons unmatchable to any other and magical skills who had gorgeous looks that humans could not compare. They are recorded in human history as kings and queens of Ireland and in the mythology as gods, goddesses and kings and queens (all of which were fae). Nevermore says that Tuatha de Dannan were the first on earth to be the 'humanoid' fae (at least in Europe) and "gave birth" to what is known as the Sidhe. Tuatha de Dannan include the famous names such as Nuada Silverarm, Dagda, Brigit, Morrigan, Manannan Mac Lir, and others. Tuatha de Dannan were invaded and ran out by the Milesians. After the invasion, they hid themselves in mounds and hills in the earth, their magic creating Tara and Tir na NOg (the land of Faerie). I'm going to let Nevermore do the honor of adding what he wants to this since these are his people.
Fomorian: Are more demon-like than faerie. Fomorians are the enemies of the Fir bolgs and Tuatha de Dannan. Fomorians are headed by Balor, who has a third eye (and one in the back of his head). This eye, when opened, will kill anybody in sight. Fomorians were cohabitating with Fir bolgs, though never got a long, and the Tuatha de Dannan 'inherited' them from the Fir bolgs. Fomorians will kidnap women, do things to them, and then either kill them or let them go. Because of this, there are plenty of Tuatha de Dannan who have relations to Fomorians. The Dagda, for example, was half Fomorian half Tuatha de Dannan. (Elatha and Danu) Manannan Mac Lir was half. Angus, son of the Dagda, got his from his father. And the list could go on. Fomorians were not friendly, and did not associate themselves with anyone else. They wanted to conquer and defeat and take over.
Nevermore says that the Fomorians look so much like they do. So when they had their festivals and events, the Fomorians would show up, dressed up like every body else, and "crash our parties". (he sounded upset when he said this. XD)
Sidhe: Sidhe also include humans who have become fae after wandering into Tir na NOg and remaining for too long, taking on the traits and magic of fae over time. As a human categorization, Sidhe translates into the word "faerie". But the sidhe are elf-like, but not elven. Sidhe are described as tall, gorgeous and richly decorated with all the
riches of the planet. Tuatha de Dannan were said to have 'given' birth
to what is the Sidhe.. They are mostly aristocrats, but some of them are exiled nobles or rogue knights or unlanded knights. One example of Sidhe is Finvarra, who was recently King of the Sidhe.
Vanir: Are actually Norse beings who have the ability to predict the future. They are actually one of the two groups of gods, the other being Æsir. They were particularly associated with fertility.
I hope this helps you a bit. There is a lot of things that the fae talk about that is not in the mythology.
Nevermore: The mythology has been passed by word of mouth for the longest time. Being done this way stories tend to change and alter themselves little by little. So in the end instead of a story about a rabbit and a fox you have a story about a hare and tortise. Humans do also have this strange desire and instinct to rationalize everything so fae have been rationalized into 'science". Our real histories and our real culture has been humanized so much to the point that we are no longer even talked about as we really are. And when WE try to define who WE are we geet penalized and claimed to be not real or not exist. There aer a lot of humans who can not swallow some truth or cant swallow too much of us at once. For this reason, humans become 'skeptic", was the word ta used. This 'skeptic" is a mechanism that humans use and create to rationalize our existance. Fae do not rationalize Human existance even though we can not always see YOU. Humans have magic to us that we are facinated by and want to harness.
If Christians can believe in their god and their god can exist then why can we not exist? Why is it so hard to believe in the truth of us that we are very VERY here and VERY real despite what science tries to prove.
The history of my people and the truth about my people is so screwed up and stomped on that the truth is no longer truth.
That is why I love to answer your questions. Because I can give you my truth of MY people. The stories that humans tell from MY eyes and MY side. The way I lived and continue to live.
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オレソジの太陽
夕暮れに君と見た
オレソジの太陽
泣きそうな顔をして
永遠の…さよなら
ゆうぐれに君とみたい
オレンジのたいよう
なきそうなかおをして
えいえんの…さよなら
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Member | SirZachary New York, U.S.A. posts 695 4:53 pm April 16, 2011
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I don't think science is the problem. Science is ment to be a way to figure out how things in the universe work. IT is the Scientists theat make a study of it who also have the duty to inform us of common education of such. Unfortunatly many times bias gets into their heads of old ways of thinking that simply do not work for this day and age. Though on the other hand we have learned some very useful things this does have some downsides.
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This is Energy Magic & does not follow any path other than its own.- Silvia Hartmann
Rage when properly focoused can turn a negative into a positive." SirZachary"Rascality is common,intelegence is rare and stupidity is infinent."
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Member | _Nevermore_ posts 113 5:10 pm April 16, 2011
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I understand. But it does make it difficult How are we all supposed to get along if no one understands us? And when we do speak no one believes the truth because of stories humans have passed by word of human mouth and the science of how things exist.
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Member | Athidal posts 646 5:16 pm April 16, 2011
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Yes, and that's why conversations like this are so very important, especially to people like me who are trying to figure out how to explain faerie in ways that logically-disposed people might be willing to accept. :) Thank you very much for taking time to answer my questions. I've actually got a lot more to say and some more questions, but I've got to be somewhere else in a few minutes, so this post is very short. Mostly I wanted to say "Thank you very much!" and that I hope you will bear with us as we try to get the stories straight. :)
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Member | SirZachary New York, U.S.A. posts 695 5:28 pm April 16, 2011
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IRidesa you always have a lot more questions. You have your own topic at 6 pages! One that was started months ago. Mehehehehe
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This is Energy Magic & does not follow any path other than its own.- Silvia Hartmann
Rage when properly focoused can turn a negative into a positive." SirZachary"Rascality is common,intelegence is rare and stupidity is infinent."
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Member | Athidal posts 646 12:17 am April 17, 2011
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Iridesa does always have lots of interesting questions, doesn't she? Alas, I am not she. ;) And now that I'm back from having dinner with friends and seeing the biggest, most totally awesome annual fireworks show in the US of A, which kicks off festivities leading up to the most famous horse race in the world ^____^ …
@Faerie Fir_Bolg: Thanks for taking on the question about the Eight. That is quite mysterious about the cities being unreachable by your fae, if Mr. E's Finias is the same as the 'Findias' named in the Mythological Cycle of Irish legend. I would be very curious to know what Mr. E's take on that situation. Hopefully we will all get to find out! Of course, now I am also wondering how many layers to the Otherworld there are, and if the Otherworld in this context equals the same thing that some people call "the Astral Plane", which is also said to have many layers. Any thoughts about that?
@Aislinn: As to the rest… (and many thanks for the long explanation!)… So, if I'm understanding you correctly when it comes to the different courts, it sounds like the Seelie and Unseelie are the only two that are mostly defined by idealogical differences (order/chaos), and the rest are more defined by the particular duties and preferences of the fae in question, and in a way they are more like a club than a rigid caste? Would you say that a fae's courts are mostly decided by personal preferences, assigned duties, birth caste, and/or birth environment (ie mermaids being of the Water because that's their natural environment)?
This sort of wanders into a topic/question that I've wondered about before, and I'm not quite sure if English is up to it. Let's see, how can I put this? So…fae are clearly very skilled at what we call magic, and have also demonstrated control over things that humans would think of as being governed by physics, biology, chemistry, and other predictable natural laws. And you are seeming to say, by your descriptions of the courts, that using these skills at magic is not just something they do because they feel like it, but is actually a kind of duty. Would you agree with that? Would you say that the results of their actions are mostly only meant to affect their own layers of reality, or that they are meant to affect ours also? I know you said that a war between the Black and White courts resulted in the potato famine in Ireland, but you also mention the Sun and Moon courts being enemies, and I'm honestly having some trouble wrapping my brain around what that would look like in the human world. Surely we would have noticed if our calendars suddenly went off schedule? Can you help me out with this one? And could a fae choose to be unaffiliated with any particular court, and just bumble along on their own account the way humans do? (I get the feeling this whole topic about courts and duties might be a really huge one…)
If Nevermore would care to share a longer list of different sorts of fae, that would be spectacular. Lots of folks around here have asked about different kinds of fae and where they live, so I know a lot of people would be very interested. ^_^
@Nevermore – Yes, I agree that it is frustrating how much information has gotten corrupted over time. It's a great, big, tangled mess by now, isn't it? :/ I think really the foe isn't either Christianity or Science, but Dogma – stiff, concrete thinking that comes from old books and old ideas, and which tries to box the world into something it's "supposed" to be instead of looking at the world the way it is. I've met fundamentalists from both camps…and also freethinkers in both. There's hope. I think it's largely a matter of finding the right way to get people to look at things in a different way than they are used to. I find that people can be surprisingly open-minded sometimes if they don't feel threatened, and especially if they are having fun. ^_^ Again, thank you for taking time to share things from your point of view.
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Member | ta posts 702 1:38 am April 17, 2011
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I am confuse over Tuatha de Dannan. Why did they want Ireland? If they came from four northern cities, wouldn't that mean that they are all not blood-related to the goddes Danu.
If the Sidhe include humans, what are the other that are concern Sidhe? Why would remaining too long changes humans traits and magic? I don't see how any of that can evoke a change in one DNA.
I was thinking, if the Fomorian were so evil, can't the Tuatha de Dannan eliminate them? I assume that the Formorian often let the women go, so that is why there are " plenty of Tuatha de Dannan who have relations to Fomorians".
If Fir blogs "were completely anniliated", why would Valor still exist?
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Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are a good person, is like expecting a bull not to attack because you are a vegetarian. -Dennis Wholey.
The real measure of your wealth is how much you'd be worth if you lost all of your money. -Bernard Meltzer
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Nevermore —
When you say "Humans have magic to us that we are facinated by and want to harness" can you please explain what you mean?
Also, when I was reading about Fomorians I immediately thought of that scary eyeball guy from Pan's Labyrinth – are Fomorians that evil and terrifying? (and ugly?)
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Being too full of sleep to understand
How far the unknown transcends the what we know
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Member | Aislinn posts 61 1:17 am April 18, 2011
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stellar said:
Nevermore —
When you say "Humans have magic to us that we are facinated by and want to harness" can you please explain what you mean?
Also, when I was reading about Fomorians I immediately thought of that scary eyeball guy from Pan's Labyrinth – are Fomorians that evil and terrifying? (and ugly?)
They are that evil, actually. Fomorians are close to demons, but they are certainly fae. Some of them do look that terrifying, and Balor is a prime example. Silverlance can give you a first hand account on that guy….
Nevermore: I am talking about your amazing teknology. You have these giant birds that take you into space and carry you through the air though you have no wings. You have these talk boxes that allow you to talk to people instantly and even hear their voice without having to use magic or energy. You have so many amazing strange and terrifying things in this realm that we would never consider having for ourselves.
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オレソジの太陽
夕暮れに君と見た
オレソジの太陽
泣きそうな顔をして
永遠の…さよなら
ゆうぐれに君とみたい
オレンジのたいよう
なきそうなかおをして
えいえんの…さよなら
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Member | Aislinn posts 61 1:39 am April 18, 2011
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ta said:
I am confuse over Tuatha de Dannan. Why did they want Ireland? If they came from four northern cities, wouldn't that mean that they are all not blood-related to the goddes Danu.
If the Sidhe include humans, what are the other that are concern Sidhe? Why would remaining too long changes humans traits and magic? I don't see how any of that can evoke a change in one DNA.
I was thinking, if the Fomoria n were so evil, can't the Tuatha de Dannan eliminate them? I assume that the Formorian often let the women go, so that is why there are " plenty of Tuatha de Dannan who have relations to Fomorians".
If Fir blogs "were completely anniliated", why would Valor still exist?
Nevermore: All there was to do back then was conquer, travel and conquer some more. Establish who was the stronger of everyone else. Most nations did back in those days. Rome couldnt stop. Most of us are blood related and some of us are not. Children of the Goddess Danu or People of Danu represents our devotion and love to her as well as those of us who are related to her. I am one of those who are related to her.
Magic changes people. And if you stay in a place of magic too long you start to change if you have no magic to protect yourself. This is why humans become more like us when with us for a time.I do not know what this DNA is but it is not about something natural in your body or biology. It is about the magic changing a person because it has efffect on them and the person must evolve to survive.
I do not understand this "If the Sidhe include humans, what are the other that are concern Sidhe?"
See back then all there was to life was war and beating people up. We had games that consisted of beating people up. At the time where Fir bolgs Fomorians and Tuatha de Dannan inhabited Ireland everything was pretty much conquer take over give back conquer again take over give back. This was a system that worked for us and kept us from boredom.
It is not about 'eliminating' any one race if we did that that would corrupt the balance of power. But the Fir bolgs did have issues during the war and it led to their end. Valor was taken in by the king before me and put into the courts. He was educated in our ways and raised that way. Valor was very young during that time and had proven himself to our king. So he decided to take him in.
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オレソジの太陽
夕暮れに君と見た
オレソジの太陽
泣きそうな顔をして
永遠の…さよなら
ゆうぐれに君とみたい
オレンジのたいよう
なきそうなかおをして
えいえんの…さよなら
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Member | Faerie_Firbolg Tara, Ireland posts 91 1:51 am April 18, 2011
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If Finias or Fyn is born from Findias, then it makes me wonder if he's astral projecting in order to get here, though I wasn't aware that they had the magical capabilities or technology to be able to pull something like that off. However, the last time I had any experience with Findias was when I was a very young child, so I'm not sure if they ever had that kind of technology or if it's something that they came up with recently.
I'd personally like to also know what's going on in Mr. E's neck of the woods. He mentioned in one of his audios that he learned English in Ireland and that he went to Ireland because there were elves there, so if there's a there for him and the there is Ireland, then there must be a here for him as well. I'd surely like to know where that is.
Cheers,
Silverlance
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Colour Chart for Faeries that steal my keyboard:
Silverlance in blue.
Ambrosia in red.
Valor in purple.
V in light blue.
Rose in Pink.
So, if I'm writing in any of these colours, I'm most likely not Ashy, I'm one of them.
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Member | Aislinn posts 61 1:52 am April 18, 2011
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Athidal said:
@Aislinn: As to the rest… (and many thanks for the long explanation!)… So, if I'm understanding you correctly when it comes to the different courts, it sounds like the Seelie and Unseelie are the only two that are mostly defined by idealogical differences (order/chaos), and the rest are more defined by the particular duties and preferences of the fae in question, and in a way they are more like a club than a rigid caste? Would you say that a fae's courts are mostly decided by personal preferences, assigned duties, birth caste, and/or birth environment (ie mermaids being of the Water because that's their natural environment)?
This sort of wanders into a topic/question that I've wondered about before, and I'm not quite sure if English is up to it. Let's see, how can I put this? So…fae are clearly very skilled at what we call magic, and have also demonstrated control over things that humans would think of as being governed by physics, biology, chemistry, and other predictable natural laws. And you are seeming to say, by your descriptions of the courts, that using these skills at magic is not just something they do because they feel like it, but is actually a kind of duty. Would you agree with that? Would you say that the results of their actions are mostly only meant to affect their own layers of reality, or that they are meant to affect ours also? I know you said that a war between the Black and White courts resulted in the potato famine in Ireland, but you also mention the Sun and Moon courts being enemies, and I'm honestly having some trouble wrapping my brain around what that would look like in the human world. Surely we would have noticed if our calendars suddenly went off schedule? Can you help me out with this one? And could a fae choose to be unaffiliated with any particular court, and just bumble along on their own account the way humans do? (I get the feeling this whole topic about courts and duties might be a really huge one…)
If Nevermore would care to share a longer list of different sorts of fae, that would be spectacular. Lots of folks around here have asked about different kinds of fae and where they live, so I know a lot of people would be very interested. ^_^
Some fae are born into their courts but most Sidhe choose their courts. They can decide what their beliefs are so long as they do not have duties to that court. Nobilities tend to have duties to their own courts and are born into a caste system and some types of fae (kelpie as example again) have duties to specific courts. V is Winter/Moon/Unseelie Court but Rose (though his daughter) is not Winter Court but Summer/Rose/Unseelie Court.
There are fae who do not associate with a court. There are:
Fence Sitters: they basically sit back and choose the side who is winning. They have a tendency to change courts repeatedly. They tend to follow the rules of whichever court they want to. (like agreeing with both Democrat and Republican parties in the US)
Wild Fae: No court what-so-ever. These fae are particularly dangerous and unpredictable because they do not have any rules to follow and make their own rules as they go. Fae in the courts obey court rules. Even Unseelie fae have rules they have to follow which makes them predictable. Wild fae have no rules and can change them as they please.
The Sun and Moon court don't necessarily change the course of our calendars by effecting days and nights…not usually. Sometimes one of their disagreements end up in an earthquake that shifts the earth's axis (which has happened a couple times) or something akin to that.
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オレソジの太陽
夕暮れに君と見た
オレソジの太陽
泣きそうな顔をして
永遠の…さよなら
ゆうぐれに君とみたい
オレンジのたいよう
なきそうなかおをして
えいえんの…さよなら
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Member | Athidal posts 646 6:59 pm April 18, 2011
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"Nevermore: I am talking about your amazing teknology. You have these
giant birds that take you into space and carry you through the air
though you have no wings. You have these talk boxes that allow you to
talk to people instantly and even hear their voice without having to use
magic or energy. You have so many amazing strange and terrifying things
in this realm that we would never consider having for ourselves."
Er… *coughcough* <_< … >_> … <_< … o_O "Don't use energy"…? Er, wow. It's true that computers don't use that *much* energy, but maybe some more conversation needs to happen about this, since energy is one of the big issues looming over humanity at the moment. Somehow, I thought this would be fairly common knowledge to fae who have any interest in humans at all. o_O (No offence intended.)
Thank you for the further explanation concerning the courts. This is clearly a pretty big topic, so I hope you'll forgive me for still being curious. Would it be possible to mention any particular kinds of duties that one court might assign its members that another court wouldn't? For example, the role of the Rose Court seems fairly clear, but what sorts of things might the Sun and Moon have been up to that would result in the kind of disagreement that causes an earthquake? o__O
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Member | ta posts 702 8:23 pm April 18, 2011
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Aislinn said:
Nevermore: All there was to do back then was conquer, travel and conquer some more. Establish who was the stronger of everyone else. Most nations did back in those days. Rome couldnt stop. Most of us are blood related and some of us are not. Children of the Goddess Danu or People of Danu represents our devotion and love to her as well as those of us who are related to her. I am one of those who are related to her.
Magic changes people. And if you stay in a place of magic too long you start to change if you have no magic to protect yourself. This is why humans become more like us when with us for a time.I do not know what this DNA is but it is not about something natural in your body or biology. It is about the magic changing a person because it has efffect on them and the person must evolve to survive.
I do not understand this "If the Sidhe include humans, what are the other that are concern Sidhe?"
See back then all there was to life was war and beating people up. We had games that consisted of beating people up. At the time where Fir bolgs Fomorians and Tuatha de Dannan inhabited Ireland everything was pretty much conquer take over give back conquer again take over give back. This was a system that worked for us and kept us from boredom.
It is not about 'eliminating' any one race if we did that that would corrupt the balance of power. But the Fir bolgs did have issues during the war and it led to their end. Valor was taken in by the king before me and put into the courts. He was educated in our ways and raised that way. Valor was very young during that time and had proven himself to our king. So he decided to take him in.
So the fae, have been around since the time of Rome. Wow, that is a long time ago.
I really want to know exactly what is this thing called magic. Maybe, can the fae explain a little to us how they do their magic. Like what would they need to cast it and what would they do to cast it. I wonder what science would call magic. Magic must be something that is abundant.
How is their world right now? Anymore fighting? What kind of creatures live outside of Ireland?
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Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are a good person, is like expecting a bull not to attack because you are a vegetarian. -Dennis Wholey.
The real measure of your wealth is how much you'd be worth if you lost all of your money. -Bernard Meltzer
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| Lisa A.- Grey Eyes Pennsylvania posts 2506 9:33 pm April 18, 2011
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Aislinn said:
stellar said:
Nevermore —
When you say "Humans have magic to us that we are facinated by and want to harness" can you please explain what you mean?
Also, when I was reading about Fomorians I immediately thought of that scary eyeball guy from Pan's Labyrinth – are Fomorians that evil and terrifying? (and ugly?)
They are that evil, actually. Fomorians are close to demons, but they are certainly fae. Some of them do look that terrifying, and Balor is a prime example. Silverlance can give you a first hand account on that guy….
Nevermore: I am talking about your amazing teknology. You have these giant birds that take you into space and carry you through the air though you have no wings. You have these talk boxes that allow you to talk to people instantly and even hear their voice without having to use magic or energy. You have so many amazing strange and terrifying things in this realm that we would never consider having for ourselves.
Aislinn said:
stellar said:
Nevermore —
When you say "Humans have magic to us that we are facinated by and want to harness" can you please explain what you mean?
Also, when I was reading about Fomorians I immediately thought of that scary eyeball guy from Pan's Labyrinth – are Fomorians that evil and terrifying? (and ugly?)
They are that evil, actually. Fomorians are close to demons, but they are certainly fae. Some of them do look that terrifying, and Balor is a prime example. Silverlance can give you a first hand account on that guy….
Nevermore: I am talking about your amazing teknology. You have these giant birds that take you into space and carry you through the air though you have no wings. You have these talk boxes that allow you to talk to people instantly and even hear their voice without having to use magic or energy. You have so many amazing strange and terrifying things in this realm that we would never consider having for ourselves.
Dear Stellar, believe me- you are much better off without alot of the stuff we humans concocted- Alot of the "gizmos" we humans have bring not so nice side-effects. For instance, our wireless telephones and cellphones can actually cause Electrical Magnetic interference and mess with the energy fields around our body and cause health problems. Who would have thunk!
The simpler, the better! Tha'ts the lesson it seems many of us humans are learning these days!
It's nice meeting you and Nevermore, by the way!
Faery Hugs to both of you!
God Bless y'as.
Lisa Grey Eyes
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Member | Faerie_Firbolg Tara, Ireland posts 91 9:34 pm April 18, 2011
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I'll take this one.
Nevermore's
only been out of Tir Na NOg for about a year and a couple of months or
so, which means that he doesn't really get or understand a lot of
things that humans do. So… cell phones… totally lost on him. But…
then again, he doesn't really understand the technology behind REGULAR
phones.
I've
been here on this planet and not in the Otherworld for a
loooooooooooooong time, so most things I understand. There are a great
many faeries that are also like me and have been in the human realm for
longer than they've been in Tir Na NOg, either because they've been
exiled here, or because they just like it better. Some faeries are…
um… technomancers? I think that's the right word, and can understand
your technology and mechinery better than you can. Ashy knows a girl
who can look at a piece of broken tech, bang on it or yell at it and
it'll work just fine.
As to the Moon Court… they just recently got a new Queen… and the Sun Court has never gotten along… so… things are a bit on the topsy side.
Hope that helps, Nevermore wants to answer the magic question.
Valor.
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Colour Chart for Faeries that steal my keyboard:
Silverlance in blue.
Ambrosia in red.
Valor in purple.
V in light blue.
Rose in Pink.
So, if I'm writing in any of these colours, I'm most likely not Ashy, I'm one of them.
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Member | road posts 79 9:13 am April 19, 2011
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Athidal said:
"Nevermore: I am talking about your amazing teknology. You have these
giant birds that take you into space and carry you through the air
though you have no wings. You have these talk boxes that allow you to
talk to people instantly and even hear their voice without having to use
magic or energy. You have so many amazing strange and terrifying things
in this realm that we would never consider having for ourselves."
Er… *coughcough* <_< … >_> … <_< … o_O "Don't use energy"…? Er, wow. It's true that computers don't use that *much* energy, but maybe some more conversation needs to happen about this, since energy is one of the big issues looming over humanity at the moment. Somehow, I thought this would be fairly common knowledge to fae who have any interest in humans at all. o_O (No offence intended.)
Do you that the "amazing technology' of ours caused many wrecks on the earth? Pollution is a good example for this..
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Member | Athidal posts 646 11:58 am April 19, 2011
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Well, let's not be *too* down on technology. After all, without it we wouldn't be having this conversation. :) We just need to figure out how to use it more responsibly than we currently are doing – and I've got a feeling that having more folks around who have a long perspective on things might help.
If the question about the duties of the courts can't really be answered, I understand… but I guess I was hoping to at least get some idea of how activities in the fae realm might leak over and affect the human one (and vice versa). Is it possible to comment on that?
I'm looking forward to Nevermore's answer about the magic question. :)
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