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Hi Violet,

As far as I know, so far the only elven magics for protection that have been mentioned by the Elves of Fyn are described in this thread: http://www.realfairies.net/for…..er-symbols where it gives a symbol of protection. My guess is that to get the symbol to work, you put it in the place you want to protect, and activate it by sending energy and thoughts to it that are all about protection. Mr. E was going to say more about working with the elven symbols, but  he seems to have been buried under other questions since then. ^_^

I buy for the elven store from this site the true simbol and protections rune, hope that will work

hope soon that the store will have the protectin flag and love, prosperity too…I will buy them too

thanks for information

I learn a lot of protection skill in many religiuos and believes over the world, and I include yours simbols too

I know about elevs, in my country the ancient Roumania was Dacia, and in north of Dacia was dacs, blonds with blue eyes like eleves, and we think that they was a little diferent from south tracs and gets from south Rumania { Dacia}

some elevs word seem verry close to some ancient word in europe like dacs woords…

any way

I just wanna tell every one, that in Roumania was believes in fairies in goood fairies and bad fairies [ ielele]; and also a lot of our legend sad about dragons and dracons

I have a private book writed about this and maybe this year I will succed to write another one, for public

this is my site books

http://sites.google.com/site/c…..ulcerului/

and write blog

http://anakeraunos.blogspot.com/

sorry again for my english

wish you all the best

Cool Violet!

Actually you may want to double check with Natalie if you can print out the protection sign, I'm not sure if thats an option for everyone. Sorry Nat if I did wrong! Please delete my message if its wrong!

Jaylene said:

Cool Violet!

Actually you may want to double check with Natalie if you can print out the protection sign, I'm not sure if thats an option for everyone. Sorry Nat if I did wrong! Please delete my message if its wrong!

You are absolutely correct, anyone can print them out for personal use.  Of course, it's also fine to buy one from us – we do a nice job of it! 

Hi Violet,

It's really neat that you wrote a book about protection symbols. It makes me wish I could read and speak Romanian so I could read it. :)

I am really curious about something now. On the cover of your book, one of the symbols looks a lot like this symbol:

truth amulet banner

which can be found in Natalie and Susan's store on this website. (Sorry, I looked and looked through the forum for the relevant post about it, but just couldn't find one, so I'm linking to the picture in the store.) And my question is, where else did you come across this symbol? I'm really curious. ^_^

Please know that I'm *not* accusing anyone of anything!  I know that Natalie and Susan have that symbol in their store for sale, and they are certainly entitled to copyright and sell their own artistic interpretation of it. But it's also true that sometimes symbols come into common knowledge (such as the seven-pointed elven star, which was known before they posted it here). I've never seen the truth-symbol anywhere else before. It's clear that you have,  though, so I'm wondering where else you saw it and what else it might mean besides just 'truth'. Who else uses that symbol?

No offence meant to anyone, I'm just being my usual curious self. ^_^

Actually Natalie, and I sincerely mean no offence by this, but that isn't what I meant at all.

First of all, it's entirely possible that Violet didn't design the cover for her own book. It is very common for publishers to contract independant artists to provide artwork for written manuscripts, so Violet may not have even had any input into the cover. But that is really beside the point.

*puts on the professional artist hat*

I understand that you would like to keep the symbols you have posted on this website under your own control, but in some cases that simply isn't possible. Again, no offence is meant here, but I know for a fact that at least one of the symbols you've posted – the seven pointed elven star – has been in semi-general use well before realfairies.net came into existance. I'm afraid that if you tried to enforce a copyright on a simple symbol like that, it's a case you might well lose in court. And if the other symbol that appears on the cover of Violet's book turns out to have been in use for hundreds of years, I'm afraid it would be equally impossible to defend a copyright on that. Now, you can certainly make and defend a copyright on a particular artistic representation of that symbol. There are all kinds of laws protecting that right, and the artistic works you've put in your store are covered by those. But if a plain old symbol has been in use before you started using it, then I'm afraid there's no legal protection for you there.

Again, no offence is meant, and I appreciate your intentions. I'm sorry to have started any waves about this. But I'd hate for you to get involved in legal proceedings that you'd have trouble winning. I feel that your time and energy are precious resources, and I'd hate to see you wasting them. ^_^

Kikuyo said:

I understand that the artwork is yours Natalie, but can't the symbol be universal? If it is indeed channeled from the Elves. I see that violet's cover is just a bunch of copy/pasted pictures from the web, but have you ever run into anyone else who knows of or uses the symbols the elves have given you? I would find it so eerie, XD but awesome proof of their existence.

And Athidal, I think Natalie is in the legal right because that is actually a picture of the artwork she has done, not something violet created herself.

I went back and doublechecked the cover of the book, and actually I think now you're right – the pictures on the cover of the book do look exactly like the ones on this website. I apologize – for some reason I was thinking the truth symbol was similar, but not exactly the same as the one here, and I actually didn't even see the protection symbol. My bad! So yes, in this case I think Natalie is legally in the right. Thanks for pointing that out.

This does still bring up an interesting question, though – Natalie, if someone does create pictures that are similar but not exact to the ones you've posted, what are your intentions about that?

Hey Natalie, looks like we crossposted. I hope you caught my apology and question. :)

Natalie Lynn said:

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Kikuyo,

The symbols may be universal but it is my artwork.

I wasn't disputing that :)

Being an amateur artist and writer I'm too scared to post my stuff online because it's just a click away to steal @_@. Maybe you should waterwark your artwork? Not to disfigure the original image, but to make it harder for others to grab.

But then there is always the “print screen” key :/ And having your artwork copyrighted and stuff, Natalie (or whoever has any info, this is just a technical question) how are you notified of someone else using it? Is there someone supposed to look out for it in use, are you left in the dark?