I recently had a conversation with JP, Mr. E’s brother-in-law, and one of the Elves we frequently talk with. He had some great insight into how humans can create better lives for themselves and he offered a cautionary note for those who seek to take a short cut by working with the dark energy. —NL
Natalie: As a Light Elf, have you ever been tempted to go down the dark path?
JP: [Long pause] Well, it’s not always easy working with the light.
Natalie: Do you sometimes wish you could work with the dark?
JP: There are times…
Natalie: Have you ever done that?
JP: No. I haven’t allowed myself to actually do that, and I never would. If I did that, I’d bring that energy right to me, and that’s a really bad road to go down. And that goes for anyone else who is practicing magic and considering going to the dark side.
Natalie: What would the consequences be?
JP: Well, the energy usually ends up absorbing the user.
Natalie: The darkness?
JP: Yes. And so their life actually gets worse in many ways.
Natalie: Does it change them?
JP: Yes, it does, it changes them. It changes them whether or not they intended it to. You know, there is always a price to pay when you play with the dark side. But some think it’s worth it, you know? It brings them instant wealth, and it brings them power, so that is why they make that choice.
Natalie: This is the same energy that the Dark Elves work with.
JP: Yes, they are following their Goddess Une. It’s all for number one or nothing, that kind of thing. They are very selfish and self-absorbed people.
Natalie: As I understand it, their priority is to get Une whatever she wants.
JP: Yes, if they get her what she wants, then they get a chance to get what they want.
Natalie Lynn: Unfortunately, in this type of society, there’s not usually enough for everyone to get what they need.
JP: Exactly, and it’s basically, “If you want this, well, you’re going to have to bargain for it.” And, personally, I prefer not to bargain.
Natalie: Fortunately, there is a better way to get what one wants and needs.
JP: One of our purposes for contacting humans (and writing our book) is to help them with little things so that they can create their reality the way they would really like to. It’s possible for them to get just about anything they want.
Natalie: Even in our world with such heavy energy?
JP: Well, you know, eventually, yes. It would just be slower for you here, but even if it is slower, it may still seem fast to you, you know what I mean? Waiting a couple of days might be nothing to you, but from what we are used to, we would think, “Okay, okay, anytime now!” We are used to going “boom, zing” and getting what we want instantly, that’s the difference. So, you would go “boom,” a couple days would go by, and “zing,” there it is.
Natalie: So, our energy here is not as big of a downside as I thought it was.
JP: No, no, no. You can still do magic and you can still create something you want for yourself. The same result will happen even if the energy is thicker and slower. You can still align yourself with the energies that will bring what you want to you. That is all you have to do in order to get there, you know?
Natalie: Can the average human do that?
JP: Yes, in time, and once they’ve studied.
Natalie: What would the studies involve?
JP: Learning how to use the energy, create the energy, and project the energy.
Natalie: So, we’re talking baby steps here. They would have to understand what energy is from a magical perspective.
JP: Yes, and to perceive and recognize different energies. That’s like, magic 101.
Natalie: I know you take that knowledge for granted in your world. Would it be a long road before they could actually do something in our world?
JP: It depends on how fast they learn, and how fast they can understand the concept. Once they understand the concept, that’s all they really need to do. And they need to believe in themselves and their abilities. That is a big challenge, but truly, if you can believe, it will happen. That’s just a fundamental truth. Focus on what you want in your head and when you see it, you must believe and understand that it’s coming.
Natalie: When you say believe, does that mean holding that resonance for a while, because, you know, in this world, it’s really hard to hold anything for very long.
JP: Well, hold it for as long as you can. If nothing else, have something around to remind you, so that, every time you look at that, you can say, “Oh, that’s right, I’m creating this.” Keep it in your mind, in the back of your mind, always running there.
Then once you can do that, there’s the other part where you have to look and expect it to happen. The looking and expecting is really important, because you can’t just be thinking, “Oh, let it happen, let it happen.” The thing is, it may be happening and you’re just not realizing it.
Natalie: When you say, “look,” what does that mean? Do we check the horizon? [laughs]
JP: Yes, I mean, for you to check the horizon metaphysically and notice what happened that day. Was there a little more abundance? Was there something good that happened? Is there something heading this way? You see what I mean?
Natalie: So things will start to feel a bit different.
JP: Yes, exactly. Have you heard the expression “the winds of change?” If you stop and sense things for a moment, you can feel it coming, you know? And then you look, and there it is on the horizon. Maybe you got an important phone call that will open a door and make things happen for you or something similar to that.
Natalie: So, to be clear, when you say “see” it, you aren’t actually physically seeing it.
JP: Well, you might, if you are looking for something that’s visual. Check to see if things are changing and also check the energy you’re feeling within yourself. If you feel negative and down, chances are you’re not doing very well.
Natalie: Right, so when you look at the horizon, you notice things are changing. Then what happens?
JP: Then what you want will come into being because, the more you focus and see it, the closer it will come to you.
Natalie: So instead of asking for something and then just assuming that it’s going to happen, you actually have to stay on it for a while. I think that differs slightly from what some others are teaching.
JP: Yes, yes, yes! That is so important! That’s what people sometimes forget when they’re trying to create their own reality. It is a very important step because, if you miss this one, you’re going to be sitting there waiting patiently when it’s already in front of you, and you don’t even know it.





Hello!
Do you know something about shapeshifters? Werewolves, werecats or faries that have some kind of transformation.
Hope you’re doing well =)
Hellooo I’m reposting my comment here (I don’t even know if the other section is checked) first of all, it’s been a long time, I’m really happy you are back with podcasts I was surprised when I received the notification (also because i checked the website a lot in the latest two weeks, maybe I sensed it coming lol )!
Hope you are all doing great despite the situation :))
I wanted to leave a voice message and ask about it but I cringed so much at my own voice hahah and I’m sorry if my question and story might sound confusing, English it’s not my first language.
So… I’m Italian (I live in north Italy to be exact) and when I was young I used to spend few weeks in a mountain village not too far from the Germans border, villagers used to scare off kids with legends before going to sleep.. in particular one of them talked about a ‘being’ called the Erlkönig which few years later I found out means literally the elf king.
Fascinating and scary recollection I’d add, anyway for a long period this piece of information was lost in my mind till I started having weird dreams during fall/winter about a ‘man’ being nice to me and the most disturbing thing is that I couldn’t ever see its face!
Years passed, sometimes I would forget about those dreams sometimes I recalled any small detail but during last fall/winter I suddenly started remembering everything said till the point things would freak me out, for real.
Erlkönig looks like a title and maybe it’s even human made…
This being apparently lives in a cold and snowy place, even its skin is so pale and cool, its well mannered and cryptic in its talks and I don’t know… anything is really ambiguous I get mixed feelings about the whole thing, it’s familiar yet scary and I just hope I’m not getting myself into difficult or dangerous situations ?
That’s why I investigated a bit and found your beautiful website and podcasts…I’m glad I’m not the only one curious and with strange dreams or encounters and I was wondering does Mr. E or JP or anyone else know anything about this? Or anyone has some suggestions about dealing with it in a positive way?
That’s it, thank you so much in advance for reading this comment!!
Hi Nyx! Thanks for your question. I just wanted to let you know that Mr. E will answer it but it may take a little time for that to happen. Just know that we haven’t forgotten you.
Hello Nyx,
Mr. E will answer this question as soon as I can get a moment to ask him. We will post the answer in our Facebook group.
alright thank you so much for taking in consideration my question!!
When is your book going to come put?
Thanks for asking! Our book is finished(!) and it is with our editor now. We are looking optimistically at late August for publication.
What would “dark energy” be defined as exactly? “Bargaining” was mentioned as an act of “dark energy”; but is that what defines the energy put forth as dark, the act itself or the intention, etc.? Much of what is discussed on this site seems to reflect Wicca teachings in regards to magic, energy, spellcasting, etc.. So, can it be safe to assume that the same beliefs can be applied to their specific definition of”dark energy”? So many different practises and cultures define it differently, so it would be interesting to know more how their culture defines “dark energy”.
Dark energy refers to negative energy with a negative purpose. As far as mirroring the wiccan ways, the Elves have always insisted that this has always been their spiritual path, long before humans adopted it.
Hello,
I’m very curious on the subject of faeries and mythology, as a kid I was always interested in fantasy and faeries and I strongly believed in magic. As I’ve grown up I’ve let go of these beliefs but I was wondering if you could give me your opinion on somethings I have experienced. I’m open to discovering more about the fairy world and I truly hope it is real so I’m taking a chance and telling you how I think I have met a fairy before. When I was around 4 I strongly believed in faeries, my mom encouraged this fascination and passed down a book about faeries to me, anyway I used to see these bright golden glowing orbs in my room, glittery gold dusk would shine in the sunlight and to me it looked like tiny faerie. I used to think I saw farriers disappear or sort of ride this rainbow that would sometimes appear in my room. I also used to have these glimpses or visions where the image of a fairy would pop into my head as well as their name and a bit about them, like they were my guardians or they were trying to speak with me. I would describe it as they wanted to be my friend and would give me glimpses of information about themselves. I have a very active imagination so I could just be too imaginative but I would love your input. :)
Well, it is hard to give a definite opinion on something that happened so long ago when you were so young but I can say that fairies can often seen by humans as orbs.
My opinion is that you did see them and yes they did talk to you!! Our imagination is what helps us understand that reality so it’s not just something you are making up in your head!! I love you story !! And yes I believe you were seeing them you probably were a fairy in one of your lives that’s why they connect to you so strongly!! Go within and connect with them again!! They are always there with you!! Especially if you felt they were your guides!! Write down in a journal when they connect with you!! ???? ???? ????
Hi I am leaving another comment replying to Casey Lark sorry if it duplicates I just didn’t see it here after I left the last comment. Maybe it takes a lil while to post.
But I do want to say In my opinion or belief yes you were definitely connecting with the fairies. Our imagination is what helps us understand that reality and helps us connect even stronger to other realms!! So no it wasn’t just something made up from your imagination!! I love your story!! Go within and Try reconnecting with them again!! They are always there especially if you felt they were your guides!! You were most likely a fairy in one of your lives and that’s why you are so connected to them ????????????
Get a journal and write about your connections in the past with them and the ones to come!! And see the magic within you come to life!! ???
The ??? Marks were actually fairy emoji’s and hearts not question marks!
Fascinating.What are their opinion,about how elves are represented in the videogames,movies,books?
There some portrayals of Elves that the Mr. E says are quite accurate. Those would be the movies and books of J.R.R. Tolkien.
hey Mrs Natalie i have a couple of questions
1. what are some good thing to do in witchcraft for green witches and good witches
2. why is the chat down?
The chat is down because we no longer believe it is safe from online predators.
We aren’t really a good source of witch or wiccan information. There are plenty of other sites that would be a better fit.
Yeah the more you give in life whatever it may be, then the more you will receive things, physical or not – specifically in this case I’m referring to receiving information on different patterns and intricate rhythms of how energy moves and what it looks like when you exchange and give whatever it may be whether an object or not, but even just staying firm in an ideology that you choose to now insist upon internally, not even needing to share the concept with anybody but just embody it like a faith prayer. And it can be as many ideals held as you like, working together or separate from one another, most of the time they work together as they are your own beliefs you stand for. and some cycles of change that you’ll pick up on and notice have slow progressions but noticeable ones when you allow for your realistic intentions to not be shaken by any outside or inside force. For example people are a lot more easily influenced by all sorts of persuasions arising from other people’s behaviors than they may ever realize and will make choices corresponding with the decided motions felt as from bouncing off of their neighbors decisions.
i like what jp is saying here and very true we need to learn to not let the dark side get to us like seeing more about the magic jp is talking about cant wait for the book